Re: alt.fan.harry-potter Frequently Asked Questions



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I still maintain this is wrong:

8.15 What was the thing in King's Cross Station near the end of DH?

The one-eighth of Voldemort's soul that had just been killed.

Babs
While the passage in the King's Cross chapter does not specifically say it is so - it sure seems that this is the portion of VOldemorts soul that was attached to Harry that was killed.

Th e only argument I would have with the statement is that is would be that it is not one-eighth.

It is merely one of the eight parts - we have no idea how large or small a fragment is compared to the main part - and we surely cannot assume that they all would be the same size even if they all were made at the same time.
DD specifically states that the soul fragment w/in Harry was destroyed by the AK... However, the way the sentence reads in the FAQ it sounds as if it's saying the destroyed soul fragment that was within Harry is the thing at Kings Cross when it's really the soul fragment that was still part of V's body which is still very much "alive" and not yet destroyed... As it stands, the FAQ is ***WRONG***

Babs
No - that is not how I read it

IT is clear to me that the soul fragment that was in Harry's scar is the one that is dead - and therefore at Kings Cross - where Dumbledore is dead and Harry can choose to be dead.

THe soul fragment that is still part of VOldemort MUST STILL be in his living body - keeping him on earth. IF ALL of VOldemorts soul was dead - he would be dead as well.

I didn't say his soul was dead... Both Harry and V collapsed during the time Harry was in the Kings Cross in his head... I think they both "died" a sort of suspended death for the time they collapsed - we don't know how long that was but it could have only bee;n for 2 minutes for all we know which is short enough a time that the brain let alone the rest of the body did not suffer irreperable damage from lack of oxygen...

When Harry made the decision to go back to life V's soul bit also went back to his body at the same time - hence the both of them "coming to" at the same time...

No - I disagree with you. IF voldemort's main soul was that thing - Voldemort himself would be there too - in Kings Cross. But - if that was his whole soul - Voldemort would not have been able to return. THere was nothing remotely similar for Harry there.

When DD said the Soul bit had been destroyed - I believe he meant that is was no longer attached to Harry. DD later said that Harry's soul was now whole again.





You misunderstand me....
Look at what the FAQ is saying... It says "The one-eighth of Voldemort's soul that had just been killed"
IF would be correct is said "The piece of Voldemorts soul that had just been killed.
The beaten looking child like thing thumping under the chair was not the part of V's soul that had just been killed... Firstly, the soul bit within Harry wasn't "killed", it was destroyed...
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Semantics - they were in the land of the dead. Dumbledore was there - he was dead. Harry was there - he had a choice to be dead or not.

BUT - Voldemort was not dead - his main part of the soul was still with him.

So - the ONLY thing that had just "Died" was the part of Voldemort's soul that was in Harry's scar.

The soul bit within Harry didn't die, it was destroyed. so it could not have been the thing under the chair.. That thing under the chair was the part of soul left of V that was transported into Harry for a short time while Harry and DD had their discussion...


I see no evidence to support that theory at all.

IT that was the case - I would have thought that Dumbledore would have said it that way - but he did not.
THe only part of Voldemorts soul they talked about was the part that had been in harry.

However - If Voldemort lost his WHOLE soul - he would be dead - nothing to bind it to the earth.
AND - Voldemort had no committed a murder - Harry did not die - so it cannot be another part of the soul too.





Babs


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