- From: Green-Eyed Chris <cwlNO@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:02:12 +0100
In article <fn7gje$2q9$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
santosh <santosh.k83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
In article <4796a802$0$17940$4fafbaef@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Lady of the Rings" <m@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches ... born
to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies
... and the Dark Lord will mark him as equal, but he will have power
the Dark Lord knows not ... and either must die at the hand of the
other for neither can live while the other survives ... the one with
the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month
The phrase "and the Dark Lord will mark him as equal" clearly states
that Voldemort chose Harry and not Neville. Therefore, retrieving the
prophecy from the DoM was just a matter between LV, who couldn't enter
publicly the Ministry, and Harry. No one else from the very day that
Voldemort killed Harry's parents. The rest, sorry, is just blah
Sorry if I stopped lurking.
Marking ain't choosing. The choice itself could have been influenced
by false information, perhaps provided by one of Dumbledore's useful
In was in Dumbledore's interests to provide true information, or at
least an half truth, since DD needed the boy (whether Harry or Neville)
to be marked by V, as the latter's equal. If V had attacked a totally
bogus target, the target would've simply died and meanwhile the
anointed vanquishers would've remained unmarked. DD had to trust in the
Prophecy, and he did.
Interestingly if Neville had been chosen by V to be offed, then probably
it would have been Alice who whould've sacrificed herself and invoked
the blood magic which in turn would've broken V and unwittingly marked
his victim. We have no evidence that any other type of magic can offer
protection against an AK curse.
I was saying that it could have been Dumbledore who did the choosing. He
had about a year and a half to observe Neville and Harry before deciding
that the Longbottom's son was a hopeless case and letting Voldemort know
that he should put his money on the Potter's child.
IIRC, it was you who posted that it could have been (EVIL) Dumbledore
who told Lily not to "stand aside".
Come to think of it, we only have Dumbledore's word for what was in the
second half of the Prophecy!!!
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