Re: The name death eaters


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On Jan 6, 3:27 pm, Green-Eyed Chris <cw...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Alexandra <witchni...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 5 Gen, 21:55, dcan...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Now that the canon is complete, did we ever find out why they're
called "death eaters?"
I always thought that, with them being Voldemort's groupies and
everything:
(1) they kind of "feed" on death, despair, fear and terrorism;
(2) "death eater" might also mean someone who defeats death, which
was, of course, Voldemorts ultimate goal.
The name probably came from either Voldemort (which might lead to n.
2) or the general population which started calling them that out of
fear (which brings us to meaning 1) as they named Voldemort You-Know-
Whom, Harry The Bow Who Lived and so on...
That's the way I understood it. I initially went with #1, until we
learned about Dementors, and then switched to #2 due to Voldemort's
desire to conquer death. He should have teamed up with Dumbledore and
his Deathly Hallows.
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Dumbledore definitely wanted to conquer death but not slaughtering
others to get this.

Are you sure? What about muggles? The young DD wouldn't have minded to get ride of them if they got in the way.


Well, I suspect the young Dd would have minded, ie he would be upset if they had to be killed, and he would probably have tried to avoid it, but I agree he probably would have got rid of them if they'd been an obstacle to achieving his vision of "the greater good". After all, he was prepared - reluctantly - to help Harry die in order to defeat Voldy.


He knew about the Horcrux of course. But he didn't
try it. Voldemort could not have teamed up with Dumbledore, firstly
because Voldemort didn't know at all about the Hallows. And if he knew
I doubt he would try to get those. Because Horcrux definitely was more
appealing to him as it was easy to create (in his way obviously).

LV feared death, that was his main motivation. DD, as fas as I can see, didn't. He wanted the power and to get the weapons that would make him powerful. A Horcrux will keep you "alive" but it won't give you extra powers as the Wand, the Cloak and the Ring were supposed to. And even after getting the Hallows, Voldemort had wanted to create Horcruxes anyway.


It's probably worth contextualising that second sentence and looking at why Dd wanted power: I don't think it was for its own sake; he wasn't a (simplistic) megalomaniac who just got a kick out of bullying or abusing people as Voldy did, or even as some way of compensating for perceived inadequacies in himself, as Snape did.

Instead, I think Dd wanted power so he could achieve his goal, which was ultimately "the greater good" (again), ie he wanted power to do good, even if at the time he didn't realise - or ignored the fact - that he would probably be committing more evil along the way, outweighing all the good he might achieve.

DaveD

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