Re: The more I think, the more ridiculous it is!
- From: Frodo Baggins <doufrodo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:06:39 -0800 (PST)
On Dec 11, 2:51 am, jdtiger <stephen.su...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 7, 4:41 am, Frodo Baggins <doufr...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The last book, the more I think about the new twists and turns thrown
in, the more laughable the whole thing appears.
Think of it, three barely adult Wizards - one Polyjuiced, one
disguised and one with an invisibility cloak - using the Imperious
curse (which they have never performed before) and befuddlement charm
completely bamboozle the security at Gringotts. They had some help
from an insider, but not anything much to speak of. Gringotts should
have been cleaned inside out long back with this kinda security.
If something has been "impenetrable" for long enough, maybe the guards
get complacent. There is precedent for breaking into Gringott's,
someone did it the first year. The legend of Gringott's security could
be just that. The dragon is a good example. It was probably formidable
years ago when it was put in but in its current state it was like a
gun that the intruder gets to before the homeowner. The kids got
"caught" by the enchantments and then used an actual dragon to escape.
I have no problem with that sequence at all.
I have lots of problems with a first time user of Imperious Curse
showing great execution and control as Harry appeared to be able to.
It is not in line with the reputation of UCs. Also, the Goblin
appeared to know about it and since Gringotts is under control of
Goblins who are non-wand bearers, they would have taken adequate
protection against it. Imperious curse and the Polyjuice portion was
the key to the whole break-in actually. The rest was barely believable
though I do not understand why the vault didnt close on the intruders,
that is a standard protection mechanism in muggle world.
Further, if V had not
stored at LEAST one horcrux there, people would
be talking about how stupid he was.
Certainly not. If MoM (Rufus and co I mean) got wind of the nature of
the Horcruxes, what is the first place that they would search? Surely
the houses/vaults of all known DEs. The best hiding place of the
Horcrux was, in my opinion, the ruined hut of the Grants though
perhaps not as a ring with a valuable stone. The second best would be
the transformed RoR.
If Rowling had introduced a new concept to explain how
they broke in, you'd be upset about that,
Yes and No. There are other ways in which the Goblin could been shown
to be a useful insider. As of the narrative, Harry could as easily
have been carried a sack for loot.
which brings us to point
The "Taboo" suddenly appears as a ubiquitous tool to locate people
uttering forbidden words. I wonder why this was not used before to
track LV or Wormtail or Bellatrix & co after their escapes. Heck why
not just track the users of forbidden curses this way?
Such a taboo would likely be extra constitutional, assuming that the
wizard world has such a document. It stands to reason that some
expectation of privacy and freedom of speech would exist under any
kind of benevolent MOM, which would explain why such an intrusive
spying tactic would be frowned on.
Get real. Just ponder how real life governments are going after the
world's most wanted terrorist.
Suddenly new rules have come into the game in the last book. We have
mentioned the useless Hallows many times in this list. Another
laughable thing is "The Trace" which Moody throws around casually in
the opening chapters.
Hallows aside, "the trace" is as good a way as any to differentiate
Hallows cannot be so easily thrown aside, after all that is the title
of the book.
between the rights of a minor and an adult, which most modern cultures.
All told, a she made a hash of it for adult readers, I suppose the
children have enough to be delighted about.
There were problems, sure, but I don't think anything you mentioned
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