Re: Did anyone else notice (Of course they did)

Ron Hunter <rphunter@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: Sirius Kase wrote:
:> On Dec 4, 5:01 am, Ron Hunter <rphun...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>> Sirius Kase wrote:
:>>> On Dec 3, 4:52 am, Ron Hunter <rphun...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>>>> Sirius Kase wrote:
:>>>>> On Dec 2, 11:15 am, Green-Eyed Chris <cw...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>>>>>> In article
:>>>>>> <bb4cf5fa-98e5-408c-99d8-918271648...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
:>>>>>> Sirius Kase <SiriusK...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 7:03 pm, Thom Madura <Tommad...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>>>>>>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
:>>>>>>>>> Thom Madura wrote:
:>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein wrote:
:>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Blakely <wcblak...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>>>>>>>>>>> : On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:09:03 -0400, Toon <t...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>>>>>>>>>>> : :>On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:27:56 -0400, Bill Blakely
:>>>>>>>>>>> :><wcblak...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:17:03 -0000, Fish Eye no Miko <f...@xxxxxxx>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>wrote:
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>On Sep 17, 2:33 pm, BriD <bethbr...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>> I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice that four of the main
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>> Characters - Harry, Dumbledore, Voldemort and Snape
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>> were all Half- bloods.
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>> Was JKR making a point I wonder?
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>I think it's even more telling that the Trio consists of a
:>>>>>>>>>>> half-blood
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>(Harry), and pure-blood (Ron), and a Muggle-born.
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>>Catherine Johnson.
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>Good point. Also, the pure-blood is the least capable of the three.
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>A half blood was one of the most powerful wizards ever, and a half
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>blood beat him. and got his arse saved by a Muggleborn many many
:>>>>>>>>>>> :>times.
:>>>>>>>>>>> : : The foolish of believing in "superior" breeding is a recurring theme
:>>>>>>>>>>> : in the series second only to the importance of choices. And of course
:>>>>>>>>>>> : the two themes are not unrelated.
:>>>>>>>>>>> :
:>>>>>>>>>>> But the foolishness of believing breeding means NOTHING is a
:>>>>>>>>>>> recurring weakness of the series...we wouldn't breed dogs or
:>>>>>>>>>>> horses if it didn't accomplish anything.
:>>>>>>>>>> But - you are talking about apples and oranges.
:>>>>>>>>>> We breed dogs and horses with superior or dominant traits. Not all
:>>>>>>>>>> "full breeds" have them.
:>>>>>>>>>> That cannot be claimed in the wizarding world. There is no basis for
:>>>>>>>>>> saying that pure bloods have only the superior or dominant traits.
:>>>>>>>>> By actual measure, it appears that half-bloods are superior. Look at
:>>>>>>>>> the evidence.
:>>>>>>>> We really don't know that either. There is no way to claim that the
:>>>>>>>> half-bloods have only superior or dominant traits. We do know that there
:>>>>>>>> were some relatively powerful half bloods - but there are likely to be
:>>>>>>>> ones that weren't.
:>>>>>>> Just wondering, is there any evidence that breeding people works any
:>>>>>>> thing like dog breeding? While purebred dogs may be beautiful to look
:>>>>>>> at, many are very neurotic and there are some breeds that can't even
:>>>>>>> give birth properly without help. I assume (rational) people would
:>>>>>>> breed for strength, brains, and looks, but most people I know would
:>>>>>>> say that they chose their mate for love, sex appear, or because they
:>>>>>>> enjoy their company. That is, they don't consciously breed for
:>>>>>>> attributes that a rational, third party might use in pairing them up.
:>>>>>>> And dogs, if left to choose their own mates, don't have the same
:>>>>>>> priorities as dog breeders do, either.
:>>>>>>>> For instance - we know that Mrs. Weasley turned out to be a force to
:>>>>>>>> reckon with. However - we don't know if Mr. Weasley was as well. THey
:>>>>>>>> are pure bloods though.
:>>>>>>> Of course, pairing up any pureblood with any other pureblood is rather
:>>>>>>> simplistic breeding strategy anyway.
:>>>>>> Genetics is genetics. The same laws apply to breeding dog-dog,
:>>>>>> people-people or people-dog.
:>>>>>> --
:>>>>>> Chris
:>>>>> Well, yeah, genetics is genetics...
:>>>>> but, my question wasn't about genetics, it was about breeding which is
:>>>>> matings managed by a breeder or parents rather than self selected
:>>>>> matings which are more typical in western culture. Cultural pressure
:>>>>> to marry only withing a narrow peer group or your own relatives is
:>>>>> similar.
:>>>> Marrying within your own relatives is called 'incest', and is
:>>>> discouraged by all rational societies. 'Inbreeding' is a certain route
:>>>> to eventual decline.
:>>> Which, I do believe is a point that Rowling was trying to
:>>> demonstrate. First with the muggleborn, halfblood, pureblood
:>>> examples. Then, she drops the anvil with the Gaunt family.
:>> While inbreeding usually is a negative, it also sometimes produces an
:>> individual in which all the genes align to produce a superior
:>> individual. This may be partly what happened with Voldemort, under the
:>> mix with a muggle. Even after generations of inbreeding, isolated
:>> family groups sometimes produce an outstanding individual, amidst the
:>> general decline.
:>> In the genetic crap game, sometimes one gets a string of 7's.
:>
:> Voldemort's parents were not related to each other. He's the product
:> of a purebred (and inbred) witch, and a muggle from a well-to-do
:> family who probably had superior genes.
:>
:> Inbreeding tends to allow recessive genes to become active. Since a
:> higher proportion of recessive genes are bad, the breed goes down
:> until an outsider is brought in to make those recessive genes inactive
:> again.
:
: Somehow a person who would abandon his own child doesn't have superior
: humanity, or ethics. Surely a 'superior person' would have superior
: ethics as well....

Did he even know the woman who had tricked him into marrying her
was pregnant?

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