Re: "I'll never forgive Jo for ..."

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:32:20 -0500, Drusilla
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Ron Hunter escribió:
Bill Blakely wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:12:41 -0500, Drusilla
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Ron Hunter escribió:
Drusilla wrote:
Green-Eyed Chris escribió:
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Sirius Kase escribió:
On Nov 8, 1:56 pm, "George Johnson" <matri...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Bill Blakely" <wcblak...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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| On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:28:44 +0530, santosh
<santosh....@xxxxxxxxx>| | wrote:

|| >Shiral wrote:

| >
| ><snip>
| >
| >> The whole Grawp story line. What a STUPID waste of
print. A | >> literary
| >> detour she'd have done better not to take. [...]
| >
| >For that matter Hagrid himself is arguably a waste of print.
|
| Oh, no, not at all!! But he doesn't have a lot of purpose
after PoA,
| and for that reason I kept expecting JKR to kill him off in
every
| subsequent book. Instead, she give him the mission to the
giants to
| give him something to do while waiting for his last big
scene in DH,
| and that was fine -- I'm glad the guy lived -- but she
didn't have to
| make a full blown subplot of it and drone on and on about
it when it
| wasn't very interesting and was of no importance in the end.
|
|
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| George W. Bush: Billions for Halliburton but not one cent
for | children's
health care.

Hagrid was the classic "Loveable Brute".

A big child-like man in a huge body full of muscles and
casual power.
Hagrid was a kind of tip of the hat to all of the adults
that still
enjoy kids books and still retain a youthful glee. That is
why his sexual
desires were never persued to any serious level beyond "play
dating" with
Madame Maxime. Grawp was a blatent nod to the Hagrid
"infantile muscle-man"
type of character.

You can find a number of powerful men in fiction reduced
to a
"childlike" characterization to make them "less inately
threatening" to a
younger audience. The "Loveable Brute" character appeals to
the female
audience + gay male audience by kicking in the maternal
instincts (the
character seems helpless to handle the problems of an average
adult) while
also appealing sexually to the female + gay male audience for
purely sexual
reasons. The "Loveable Brute" character also appeals to the
females + gay
males even stronger when the "Loveable Brute" is cast as a
selfless
self-sacrificing protector that endures horrible agony to
protect those he
cares for.

At this point, J.K. Rowling's only flaw in using the
character is not
having him run around in a pair of tight shorts (or briefs)
or shirtless,
flexing his hairy chest and muscled arms to cement the whole
"passion
object" aspect of the "Loveable Brute" architype.

You really have to shut down the emotional section of
your brain to
dispassionately realize that they call television shows
"PROGRAMMING" for a
reason.

To program an audience, you have to manipulate them. To
manipulate an
audience, you have to twist their desires and opinions into
your desires and
opinions by using characters that appeal to them for horribly
stereotypical
reasons. Once you can get an audience to laugh on cue, you
can get them to
agree with you unthinkingly.
You think Hagrid is sexy? I think Snape has much more
fangirls. I
think Harry has much more fangirls. In fact, even Dudley is
sexier
than Hagrid. But, not Vernon, I don't know what Petunia sees
in him.

LOL, I think Hagrid really has a lot of fans, but not due to
his "sexiness"
Listen, young lady. It's not the size. It's the... err... the...
well... uhh... you know... the...

I mean, how is someone your size supposed to get... I mean
put... err... you know... do... I mean actually do... for
real... I mean...

Oh, forget it.
--
Chris
You know, somehow you made me remember something that has
bewildered my mum for years. How her lovely German Shepherd got
pregnant with the neighbor's Dachshund. That thought.. oh, well,
it¡s how she says it what made me giggle. So, yes, I know that
some things doesn't matter.
It is an old tradition that whenever two Germans meet, far away
from home, a colony is founded.

And, about Hagrid being sexy, today I read that Hugo Chavez had
been selected among the sexiest men in Venezuela... so.... no
further comment.
It would seem that (would-be-) dictators with good propaganda
become substitute rock stars. Just look at footage of Hitler
driving through a crowd in an open car and observe the tear filled
screaming women who would loved to have had his child.
--
Chris
Yeah, I know but still... <shudders> Hugo Chavez is the most
un-sexy person I've ever heard about... God, I even gave Snape some
credit!


Would you suggest that his nights are lonely? I strongly doubt it!
No, I don't. Even unsexy people have sex, don't they?

As Henry Kissinger, no stud-muffin himself, said, power is the
ultimate aphrodisiac.

I see where King of Spain told Chavez to shut up at the Ibero-Latin
American summit.

As Mel Brooks said, it's good to be the king.


I thought that was rather amusing too. Hugo was calling one of his
friends names, and the king got annoyed. Chavez is a real 'case'.


Chavez was insulting the former Spanish President, Aznar, while the
actual one, Zapatero, was talking. He called him fascist, accused him to
be aware of a strike in Venezuela back in 2002, called him "less human
than snake" and the usual stuff he always babbles about. Chavez is like
a "king" in Venezuela, his TV shows last hours in local tv, he's not
used to let others to speak: you're against him, you're gone. Now he's
saying the King behave like a "mad bull". How mature of him, isn't it?
Poor people in Venezuela that now have to face a humiliated Chavez when
they're about to vote for a new constitution that, if approved, will
keep him in power forever.

Will the referendum be rigged, or does Chavez have the people of
Venezuela so taken in that he doesn't have to do that?


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