Re: "I'll never forgive Jo for ..."
- From: Thom Madura <Tommadura@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:45:20 -0500
Richard Eney wrote:
In article <szg_i.24$sT6.7@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Thom Madura <Tommadura@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Weird Beard wrote:Drusilla <gammanormidsERASETHIS@xxxxxxxxx> wroteIt is more likely that the religious overtones are not found because they were never there to begin with.
This might be a very silly question but how is that me, being Catholic, I never catch this Christian overtones? My hurried explanation is that, as religion is something ordinary in my life, is like noticing something "out of normal" on Harry and Ron eating.You must not have read Perelandra. The main plot is basically an examination of whether what happened in the garden of Eden was bad for humanity or good for it, and ends with a few pages of the good guys praising God. Not that there's nothing wrong with that: that was the kind of non-fiction Lewis wrote, too.
Narnia is like that to a lesser extent, but also much more a traditional "once upon a time" type fantasy, except for, perhaps The Last Battle.
Huh? Are you saying there are no religious overtones in _Narnia_?
Well, if not, it's only because they are right out there in print on
the page, not hiding as overtones. And the same doubled for Perelandra
and the rest.
Narnia was not written to be religious. Neither were the others.
What everyone calls religious overtones are nothing more than stories that are similar to the fictional stories created by religion. However - those stories are not the property of religion - and virtually all are based on non-religious stories from before that religion existed.
There are LOTS (Actually hundreds) of people who claimed to be the mesiah at the time of the creation of the fiction about the christ. A number of them were crucified for saying so. In fact - in the historical record, it is the christ that does not appear - many of the others do. Interestingly, there have been people who have claimed to be the mesiah in virtually any generation you talk about. Virtually NONE of these had a religion started about them. We actually have lots more historical documentation about the Egyptian GODS than we do the Christian and Jewish ones. (The bible - being at most a second - and likely third, fourth or tenth hand source - was written centuries after the things in it supposedly happened and is not a historical source.)
After the fact - I could look into the bible and find references to support devil worship. Every third letter might be compiled to create a recipe for macaroni and cheese - with ham. The people who are looking for religious meanings in a story are likely to find them because they will manufacture something out of nothing. The smallest reference to a word used in religion is reason enough to claim something that was not written to be there.
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