Re: What happens next?



Sue H wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:49:24 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Sue H wrote:
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:13:31 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Sue H wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:21:18 -0700, Karnak17 <karnak17@xxxxxx> wrote:

Ron Hunter wrote:
Karnak17 wrote:
Ron Hunter wrote:
Nuki Mouse wrote:
"Bill Blakely" <wcblakely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:32:39 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Why anyone would think Molly would object to Ginny marrying is
a mystery to me.
No one been saying Molly would object, just that she might want
to see Ginny complete school first and have more time with Harry
as a Boyfriend/fiancée first.
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Don't you think that would be highly hypocritical? Given that
Arthur and Molly were married as soon as they got out of school?
Seems to me that most women who marry right out of school don't
want their daughters to do the same, for exactly that reason.
Sixteen is too young to marry, and those who've done it know it.
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Just because parents did unwise
things when they were young doesn't make it "hypocritical" for
them to want their kids
to do things differently. Molly clearly always wanted her
children to
be high achievers. I suppose you could regard as "hypocritical"
coming from a housewife, but I think it makes perfect sense.
The point is that it IS hypocritical.
So what. Parents are "hypocritical" quite often.

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Moreover, what Molly and Arthur want is not a consideration
because by the end of summer, Ginny will be 17, and able to do
whatever she wants, mistake or not.
We are discussing what Molly would want, and whether Molly would think
it was a mistake. Not whether she COULD stop it, but whether she
would want to.

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I met my wife in December, and we were married the next June. My
oldest nephew met, and married his wife in only 3 weeks. I have
been married over 39 years, and his marriage lasted until his
death, 22 years later. Sometimes, you just KNOW you have the
right person.
And sometimes your parents just KNOW that even if you have found
the
right person, it is better to wait and grow up a bit before actual
marriage. That would, I think, be Molly's attitude based on her
personal experience. She didn't want Bill to rush into anything
either, and used the war as justification for her hasty marriage
to Arthur.
Oh, the war? And Harry isn't right in the middle of one? So isn't
that
the same excuse THEY used? Waiting just doesn't wash, not in the
Harry/Ginny situation.
Actually, Harry is at the END of a war in this scenario, he and Ginny
have not yet finished school, as Arthur and Molly had.

Molly had plenty misgivings about BILL getting married, despite the
fact that 1) Bill had plenty of money, 2) he was in his mid-twenties,
3) both he and his bride had graduated and were established in their
careers, and 4) there was a War -- if not ON -- certainly impending.

So, based on her track record, Molly might object to her only daughter
getting married at sixteen, even to the great and wonderful Harry
Potter, hypocritical prudish bitch that she is. She doesn't know as
much about True Love as you do. Cut her some slack.
What does war have anything to do with marraige? I just don't really
see that as a factor.
No? Then explain why birth rates go up when wars are on. Explain why the number of unplanned pregnancies goes up, and why the number of unwed mothers goes up. It is the nature of the species to want to propagate when threatened.
Yeah, well these are kids who barely held hands at this point. I
don't think there'll be much babies from that small battle.
It isn't the size of the battle, but the feeling on the part of the people who are involved. Within their small world, the situation was comparable to the Occupation of France by the Germans in WWII. There were some rather interesting sociological upheavals from that 'small' situation as well.
When soldiers returned to the US after WWII, there was a drastic increase in the birth rate, which lasted for several years.

I don't think you can even compare WWII. For one thing, that went on
for YEARS. Not a couple days. Second, there were millions involved
not dozens. Third, most of this "war" was actually done by kids in
school. Fourth, this isn't even a "war"; it's more like one battle?
The "war" basically was between Voldermort and Harry and a few adults.
The kids didn't even know what was happening till it was happening.
Fifth, it's not happening all over the world in fields and farmhouses
and many buildings. It's held in one school and on the grounds of
that school. Finally, they are done and burying dead in sadness. I
don't know too many people who come home after a mass funeral and have
sex. Oh and When the hell are they going to have time to shack up?
Between curses?
War has nothing to do in this book with the possibility of having a
surge of babies!

The wizard population is small, and Voldemort was waging war against them, and muggles, killing almost indiscriminatingly, near the end. Certainly the effect on the wizarding population would be significant, within their small population. The size of the way isn't the issue, but the feelings it generates. It doesn't matter if the whole country is in danger of being wiped out, if YOUR family, and friends are, then the stress is the same for you.
The strife between Voldemort and the Wizarding world was called a 'war', in fact, there were two of them.

After the war, when everything gets back to some semblance of normal, then the incentive to reproduce becomes strong.
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