Re: DH rumour list


mueckelein wrote:
How do you explain the pattern of her square glasses?

I don't see why I should need to. Pale blond Malfoy was turned into a
WHITE ferret, wasn't he? Doesn't his ferret form match his human
form? Does this make him a ferret animagus? Of course not.

I do think her markings are a clue to her identity, both as a human
and as a Naga-snake. The snakes most often associated with Nagas
(female = Nagini} are tabby-colored (bronze striped with black) and
have spectacle markings on their hoods, commonly including square
black "eye" patches on the front of their hoods.

How do you
explain the Tabby in book 1 reading a map and the street sign of
Privet drive?

Have we not been through all this before?

It was a transformation that only affected her outer shape. It did
not affect her mind. It did not turn her completely into a cat.

Since she had no particular need for a cat's brain -- there was no
need to give herself one. Hence, an incomplete transformation, that
only gave her the outer shape of a cat, was all she needed.

As you said a transformed person is aware of the transformation
but is not able to act or react on it.

I never said that.

Neville just turns into a canary, but he neither tries to fly, nor
can he speak. He´s just caught in that covering.

We know that he would be unable to fly, because the QTTA quote
establishes the only persons who can fly in bird form are bird
animagi, and persons whose bird transformation is so complete that
they forget their human selves.

It is possible that he was also unable to speak, simply because he
doesn't speak. But this may merely have been the consequence of
having a canary's voice box.

Which capabilities do transformed people in animal shape,
who are NOT an animagus then, have?

This would depend on the particular transformation spell that was
cast.

The only limits we are aware of, is that a person who transforms
himself (or another) into a flying animal, cannot simultaneously gain
the ability to fly, and permit his human brain to remain in control.

This is obviously not a problem for McG. She does not need to try to
give her cat form the ability to fly, so the QTTA rule does not kick
in. All she needs do is give herself the outer form of a cat, without
a cat's brain.

If you cannot think like a human I
´d exclude you can transform back to human on your own will.

This is obviously not a problem for McG. She does not need to give
her cat form the ability to fly, so the QTTA rule does not kick in.
All she needs do is give herself the outer form of a cat, without a
cat's brain.

Why
should you if you are a cat ( or whatever else). The will to
transform back is due to human thinking.

This is obviously not a problem for McG. She does not need to give
her cat form the ability to fly, so the QTTA rule does not kick in.
All she needs do is give herself the outer form of a cat, without a
cat's brain.

Or there must be something like the
canary cream that wears off after a certain time on its own.

Not necessarily. She could, for instance, have cast a self-
transfiguration spell that is designed to last as long as she
maintains concentration. Or is designed to last until she opens her
teeth. Or is designed to be cancelled simply when she thinks
"CANCEL."

The Tabby
stayed a Tabby for more than 12 hours once and the second time
turned back to human within a minute.

So what?

THIS is an animagus. No way around it, I fear.

Why? An animagus is defined as a wizard who is able to assume animal
form at will. The ability to remain in animal form for 12 hours, or
to reverse the transformation at will, is completely irrelevant to the
definititon.

Moreover, I am not even sure McGonagall is Wizard. She may be a shape-
shifted Hag, or a shapeshifted Ogress or a transformed female Naga.
If she is not human, then she is not, according to the definition, an
animagus, since an animagi are, by definition, WIZARDS who can assume
animal form at will.

Or what, according to you, makes the difference between
McGonnagall as a Tabby ( Non - Animagus, according to you) and
Sirius as a dog ( Animagus)?

If you were to take away McG's wand and other magical tools, and throw
her in Azkaban, she would not be able to turn herself into a Tabby
cat. That's the main, defining, difference.

Another likely difference is that non-animagi do not have a special
affinity to their chosen form. Thus, thus a dog animagus in dog form
would NOT be detectable by its undoglike behavior, but a person in a
non-animagus dog tranformation might give itself away by not acting
like a dog.

For instance:

McG: How did you know it was me?
DD: I've never seen a cat sit so stiffly.

Dumbledore detected McG in part by her uncatlike behavior. This would
not have happened with a true animagus form.

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