Re: DH rumour list

nystulc@xxxxxx wrote:

richard e white wrote:
She showed Harry's whole class her cat animogy transformation in book three.

Possible, but unproven. We do not know what happened in class that
day because Harry was not paying attention. He probably assumes (as
do most readers) that the cat form he observed is her animagus form.
But since Hermione was the one paying attention, you would have to ask
Hermione what sort of transformation McGonagall was demonstrating.

And has said that you only get one form.

Not very relevant to my theory, since my preferred version of the
theory gives McGonagall only one "animagus form", with her other
transformations being of the non-animagus variety.

However, please tell me where this is stated, because I have never
been able to find it.

The coment that maggonical is a cat is in book three just after the first divanation
class.
As to the one shape for an animogy transformation it was in an interview. I'm not
sure witch one but it was right around the book fore release. I think it was before
the release though. Most of the questions were about the transformation.


In QTTA it says that wizards and witches that are transformed by other means
then the animogy transformation get the brain of the new form and forget where
they were going.

Incorrect. What it states is that this happens to such wizards who
try to use such transformation to gain the power to fly.

I didn't use an exsact quote and nither did you. If you post the bit the others can
see it for themselves.



What this probably means is that you need an bird's brain to fly like
a bird. Only animagi can gain this benefit, while simultaneously
retaining their human intelligence.

That is the jest of the comment.


However, a transformation that
gives one only the outer appearance of a bird, without the benefits of
a bird-brain (such as flight) may still be possible for non-animagi.

True but it would have to be a big bird as changing the brains size could also
effect the change.



As Krum proved, incomplete transformation is possible. One could give
oneself the outer appearance of an animal, and retain a human brain.
Krum, for instance gave himself a shark head, but retained a human
brain inside that shark's head.

While this is posable with a shark do to the size, I don't think it would work with
a bird. But we do know that partail transformation can let one fly. The child with
wings at the hospital is proff of that as well. But it was the wings that the child
got not the head. Not much reason to do the head for flight.



Presumably, he could also have given himself a bird-head, while
retaining a human mind. He could have given himself a dolphin head,
while retaining a human mind. Such an incomplete transformation,
however, would not have given many of the creatures natural abilities
that are dependent on animal brain function. Presumably, he could
not simultaneously gain a human mind within a dolphin head, and still
gain a dolphin's sonar abilities (unless he is a dolphin animagus).
Such a skill is too brain-dependent. Same with a bird's ability to
fly.

But the child is shown as being in the air by just haveing the wings. So it doesn't
seam that the brain was needed. My question is how dangerous is partal
transformations?



It is pointless to quibble that Krum only transformed his head, and
left the rest of the body still human. The head is the part that
contains the brain. If he can transform his head and retain human
intelligence, he can transform his whole body, and retain human
intelligence.

Not acording to the writer.
And the size of the shark head might be the desideing factor.


That is why Krum only did a partal transformation. If he went all the way he
would of had the mind of a shark as well.

He transformed his head, the part that contains his brain. He managed
a partial transformation on his head (granting the outer appearance,
but retaining the human mind), and what he does to the rest of his
body should be irrelevant. I suspect the real reason he opted not to
transform his trunk and limbs was that he wanted to still be able to
use his wand. Indeed, the particular spell he used may have required
him to use his wand to untransform himself.

Yes. But part of the partal change was most likely not giveing himself the brain of
a shark. And I don't see anything wrong with partal changes that did everthing but
the brain. And I expect you are right as to why he wanted his hands free. But it's
turning the brain as well that's has the danger. I expect that was part of what
happend to the dog headed woman at the hospital. I think that some or all of her
brain went as well, makeing the return harder if not imposable.
Then again she might have been trying the animogy transformation. That one is said
to be able to go horrably wrong.



--
Richard The Blind Typer.
Lets hear it for talking computers.
Lets go for talking i-pods!


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