Re: Who Is The Other



Sirius Kase wrote:
On Jun 11, 4:05 am, Toon <t...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Based on another thread between Ron Hunter's rigid prophecy
interpretation, and others more relaxed (maybe too relaxed) one there
is two things that need to be remembered.

1. Her prophecy is correct English, therefore we can't go making up
meanings that aren't correct English.

2. English does allow for some ambiguity, and knowing Rowling, she may
go for the less obvious interpretation while still using English that
is technically correct.

The prophecy is clearly about The Dark Lord and the Marked One with
the power to Vanquish the DL. Voldemort is clearly the DL, and Harry
is clearly the one he has marked. The most straightforward
interpretation of the prophecy implies a relationship including only
these two character, one must kill the other in order to truly live,
whatever that means.

Also, quite clearly, neither are living a proper life at this time.
So, we already have something to wonder about, even with this most
straightforward interpretation, namely, what is this condition of
being truly alive? Does it have anything to do with being immortal?
After all, if you believe in an afterlife that is just as real as this
one, then you are effectively immortal, and can live without fearing
death.

Now, if we can relax our interpretaion of the prophecy while still
requiring correct English. At the time of the prophecy, it concerned
not just the Dark Lord and the Chosen One, since no one had yet been
marked, it concerned an entire pool of candidates who met the
qualification of having parents who thrice defied the DL and were born
towards the end of the seventh month. The story has revealed that
this includes Neville, but does it include anyone else? Rowling has
been posting Happy Birthdays to many characters on her website for
years now. Who else was born in late July? Must it even be the same
year as Harry and Neville? Might it be a Weasley? Must they have
been unborn at the time of the prophecy? So, up until the attack on
the Potters at GH, we have a candidate group of at least two people.
And, it would be correct to say that the prophecy refers to all of
them, not just the candidate to be chosen later. Hence, the prophecy
refers to the Dark Lord, the Chosen, Marked One, and the other(s). It
would not be technically incorrect for the other(s) to be someone
other than Harry or Voldemort. QED.

I have shown that the prophecy could correctly refer to quite a large
group. Fortunately, Rowling has told us that we have enough clues to
know, if only we could distinguish them form the red herrings. Dang,
where is that hungry walrus when we need him. Therefore, we have in
all liklihood, met the other(s).

Dumbledore told Harry that only he and Neville fit the requirements. I would assume that his research was through, and given the requirement of the candidate's parents having had to defy Voldemort three times, the pool would be quite small.

Should we use the interpretation of DL, Harry, and 'the other', then Neville is 'the other'. Waiting until the final book to introduce yet another character who could be 'the other' wouldn't be quite playing fair.
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