Re: Unanswered Questions
- From: Thom Madura <Thom-Madura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:00:54 GMT
gjw wrote:
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:02:25 GMT, Thom Madura
<Thom-Madura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Toon wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:44:25 -0800, richard e white <chiphead@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
That is one of the biggest hurtals for the snape is good people.
Nope.
Snape never tells DD that peter was the spy. Acording to DD snape joined DD's
side long before V's fall. Though it is posable that snape doesn't know peter
was a DE until later.
The reason DD never learned that peter was the secret keeper? My bet is that he
didn't meat with peter dureing the week the charm was up. And peter faked his
own death just after. I think peter saw no one but black after V's fall. This
twin state makes it hard for any to know peter was up to something.
Only black knew and he said he went a little funny after peter got away. By the
time black was right in the head Crouch sr had already sent him off with out a
trial.
We know Voldemort never informed DE's of each other.
Where do we know this? When V used his mark to summon the DE"s - they came TOGETHER - how did they not know each other?
Not just that. At the graveyard, despite the fact that the DE's were
masked, Voldemort called them by name. That's how Harry was able to
later tell Fudge who the Death Eaters were. So that kills the idea
that the DE's didn't know each other's identities.
Seems people have this idea
Snape's the most trusted DE around. privy to all V's secrets. Is
seriously doubt he's well informed at any given time.
I am sure that no DE was truly trusted by V.
Narcissa to Snape: "You are the Dark Lord's favorite, his most trusted
advisor..."
(Granted, trust can be a relative thing. I doubt that Voldemort is a
very trusting person. But he obviously trusts some people DE's more
than others.)
Probably went
unnoticed until he told about the Partial Prophecy. Maybe he got
rewarded. But do you seriously think Voldemort would reward him by
sparing a mud blood he loved? A low level nothing boy who only did
one useful thing? At least Peter spied for a year. Then told the
secret.
There is no more reason to believe that Snape was "a low level
nothing" at the time than there is to believe that he was the most
trusted member of Voldemort's organization. In fact, since we know
for certain that Snape eventually reached that status, there is far
less reason. We simply don't know just when he became Voldemort's
golden boy, but since he is the only DE to have been described in such
terms, there's no reason to think that Voldemort wouldn't be willing
to grudgingly reward him for his service.
Bear in mind that LV didn't even go through with it - he still killed
Lily. Apparently, the most Snape could persuade him to do was to
hesitate briefly before killing her, to give Lily a chance to give up
her child to a murderer - something both men had to realize that no
decent mother would do. Which is why Snape went to Dumbledore...
I continue to believe that V considered that he had to eliminate the blood line that night to not only kill the "one with the power" - but to also prevent a future one from being born. I am sure he considered the Potter pure blood line to be the culprit against him - not Lily's muggle heritage.
I honestly don't know why you believe this. There is no indication in
the books that Voldemort was obsessed with the Potter bloodline. He
was simply scared of the child that the prophecy predicted would be
his downfall - so he set out to kill him. He could have gone after
Neville, who had a better, pure bloodline, but instead chose a
half-blood because that half-blood status reminded him of his own.
Killing the baby meant killing his family as well (since they
certainly weren't going to just give him up), and Voldemort had no
qualms about that, especially since the couple had already "thrice
defied him" and were probably already on his hit list.
Since I still believe that James and Harry are heirs to Gryffindor - something Lily could not be - V wanted to destroy that bloodline.
OK, Never mind. I see where you're coming from. But I'm not sure I
agree. Before the release of HBP, I also suspected that Harry was
probably the heir of Gryffindor. In fact, I was pretty sure that the
new character described as looking like a lion would turn out to be
Godric Gryffindor himself, and that the whole Gryffindor story would
be told in that book (probably via Pensive memories). I was wrong
about that, and I'm now completely undecided about Harry as the
Gryffindor heir. He may be, or he may not be. But it's getting late
in the storyline - one would think that if he were, Dumbledore would
have told him before he died.
Frankly - I think he did - when he told him that only a true Gryffindor could have pulled the sword out of the sorting hat. That statement CAN be taken two ways.
Even if the two were not heirs to Gryffindor, my argument would still apply - since V would not consider A muggleborn to be part of bloodline that would succeed in killing him. Therefore - to eliminate the bloodline - he only needed to eliminate the Pure Blood and the Child - not the muggleborn mother.
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