Re: How to find the Horcruxes - Yet another theory!
- From: richard e white <chiphead@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:31:25 -0800
Frodo Baggins wrote:
So how does Harry go about finding the location of the Horcruxes (if
that is plural)? How does he figure out how to destroy them? How does
he find out and exploit any weakness in LV so that he can gain
ascendancy over the world's most powerful evil wizard? Seems like an
impossibility isnt'it? Here is a theory.
We need to go back to the saddest day in Harry's life. He rushed off to
the ministry in a poorly thought out rescue effort to save his
Godfather's life. In the process, he presented himself and his friends
into the hands of Deatheaters. Fortunately help arrived in time, but
this brought his Godfather to the battle field in an effort,
ironically, to save Harry. Sirius dies in the ensuing battle. Blinded
by hate and anger, Harry rushes after a taunting Bellatrix, the killer
of Sirius. This takes him away from Dumbledore's protection momentarily
and there is an opportunity for LV to rescue Bellatrix and either kill
or kidnap Harry. We see LV aiming the AK curse at Harry and Dumbledore
arriving just in time to block it and attempt to keep Harry under
protection. LV then takes on Dumbledore in one of the first wizarding
one to one battle scenes that we have seen in the series so far.
Dumbledore has to fight LV as well as keep up Harry's protection.
Foolishly Harry is still not content to remain under protection, but
again exposes himself. At this moment, it appeared as if Dumbledore,
while combating the twin death threat from of LV and Nagini's spirit,
as well as keen on protecting Harry had put his own life in jeopardy.
Fawkes arrived just in time to swallow the AK curse while Dumbledore
seemed to have LV trapped (in an anti-disapparation jinx?). At this
point of desperation, LV showed an ability which Dumbledore suspected,
but was never sure of. He pocessed Harry's body! For about a minute,
Harry's body was a vehicle for LVs existance, perhaps the soulbit in
Nagini's form inhabited Harry's body after being vanquished by
So here we see many facets of LVs invincibility. For one, he cannot be
captured by an anti-disapparation jinx unless, PERHAPS, both he and
Nagini's forms are trapped in it at the same time. He can freely take
pocession of a person around him (or at least take pocession of Harry)
if either he or Nagini's form is free to do so. He can then reclaim his
own body after acting from one physical form to free his other trapped
form. Dumbledore seemed to have suspected this when he questioned the
spindly silver instrument earlier in his office. LV also seems able to
do magic without the wand, but then accomplished Wizards may not need a
Where does all this get us? How does Harry overcome all this? We need
to focus on that small period of time when LV's existance was in
Harry's body. This means that Harry's mind and LVs mind occupied the
same physical space. This naturally leads us to the question, what
would Harry see if he retrieves this "memory" into a Pensieve? How
would this small period of time, just about a minute or so when LV was
in Harry's body be preserved in Harry's memory? Would it be possible
for Harry to probe into the mind of LV as was preserved at the time LV
pocessed him? Can he then delve into it to discover the Horcruxes
location and desctruction? Will the memory of pocession placed within a
Penseive be just a passive memory, ie: third person memory, like we
have seen or a memory that can act back like the one in a diary? Can
Harry question this memory when he plunges into the Penseive to get
answers to his questions? Would it be that "active"? I feel if the
pocessed memory can turn out to be an "active" one; I say this as
technically two minds were in the same physical body each able to act
on its own - Harry thought of dying and reuniting with Sirius while LV
was taunting AD to kill Harry. So that moment of weakness from LV when
he, in desperation, tried to get AD to kill Harry may turn out to be
his undoing. The Harry part of the memory would be "passive" while the
LV part could be active. LV could have blocked his mind prior to the
pocession, but he did not have the time to do. He could have blocked
his own horcrux memories as an abundant precaution (who needs them once
they are created anyway!) much earlier, but otherwise, this is one
method for Harry to enter into LVs mind and gain knowledge that he
lacks. In any case, Harry can still gain valuable information about
Horcrux destruction and magical powers that he is not aware of.
There are one or two aspects which also needs to be looked at once we
go on this line of thinking. For one, how does Harry learn to use the
Pensieve? Easy, just ask Hermione. She is sure to have already
researched it! Then, when Harry concentrates on that point in time to
recover his memory, will LV know about it due to his apparent
connection with Harry's mind? What can he do in that case?
I think your close to the right way but I expect the scar to be the link.
It has been slowly set up dureing all the earlyer books. The Pensive would
take a lot to set it up to be used that way and I doubt that JKR would
bother recreating the same thing all over again.
We Know V was blocking harry in Book six with Occ. But we have yet to
see what Harry might be able to do with leg. against V, or for that matter
what would happen if Harry just tried to look into V's mind by just useing
his will. This link may be the same sort of thing V is already doing to
others dureing a fight. I think the scar and it's link are the key.
Richard The Blind Typer.
Lets hear it for talking computers.
Lets go for talking i-pods!
- How to find the Horcruxes - Yet another theory!
- From: Frodo Baggins
- How to find the Horcruxes - Yet another theory!