Re: Godric's Hollow and the missing day *** possible spoilers ***

On 18 Jul 2006 12:54:03 -0700, ag30476@xxxxxxxxx wrote:


gjw wrote:

Once again, the easiest answer is that Dumbledore didn't send Hagrid
at all. Hagrid was in Godric's Hollow for one reason or another and
discovered the smoking remains of the house and rescued Harry. He
then contacted Dumbledore, who told him to bring the child to Privet
Drive.

The backstory is full of suspense. LV is known to be plotting the muder
of one or another child. The Potters have used the FC charm which is
used to hide the OotP HQ. James and Sirius have not even told DD that
Pettigrew is the SK. Hagrid can't just be near GH for "some reason or
another".

Sure he can.

He can only be there because he is protecting Harry.

Not at all. Given the fact that the neighborhood is named after a
wizard, there's a good chance that there are quite a few wizards
living there (and/or doing business there). That alone gives Hagrid,
or any other wizard, a reason to be in the village.

He couldn't have been there to protect Harry, because he can't know
Harry is there. It's a secret, remember? A secret that only Wormtail
could reveal. It's possible that Hagrid might have been in the
village to visit the Potters' house for some other reason, not
realizing that he was going to their hiding place, and was surprised
to find it in ruins when he arrived.


Regardless, this reconstruction still has some some assumptions (some
of which are hidden):

- *Hagrid is near GH* - assumption - no explicitly stated in the text.

Obviously. But the fact that he arrives within seconds of the attack
would tend to confirm it.


- *Hagrid does not see LV enter the hiding place or is too late or too
slow to do anything about* - assumption - not explicitly stated in the
text.

Had Hagrid seen Voldemort approaching the Potter's house, he surely
would have tried to stop him. The fact that he didn't is proof that
he didn't see him. The most likely scenario is that he was either
attracted to the house by the explosion, or that he was on his way to
the house for some other reason and arrived just after the attack.


Curiously Hagrid is angry at himself at not having stopped Sirius
when he had the chance. Yet he does not EVER seem effected with the
remorse that he was at GH, near the Potter's, when the attack took
place and could not do anything to stop it. Completely out of
characater.

He simply arrived to late to do anything. And he feels lucky to have
saved the child. (Dumbledore doesn't seem to beat himself over the
head about it either.)


- Hagrid rescues Harry and is instructed by DD to take Harry to PD.
*Hagrid then must have some way to get Harry to PD before Sirius
arrives* - assumption - not explicitly stated in the text. What is it?
Did he have it before he got to GH? Did DD send it?

Obviously, if Dumbledore told him to come to Privet Drive, Hagrid had
a means of getting there. What that means was is pointless (except
that a flying motorcycle was obviously preferable to Hagrid).


- In this scenario, Hagrid is not in the hiding place. So he does not
see Lilly makes the sacrifice. Yet DD knows about this.

As far as I can gather, Dumbledore simply put two & two together. The
mother was dead, the child was alive (but scarred), and Voldemort's
curse had backfired on him. To a wizard like Dumbledore,
well-aquainted with the maternal protection magic, it was obvious what
had happened.


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