Re: Troels: Check this out: Re: Attention George Kerby, Mr. Un-Science (OT)



Steven Sousa wrote:
Here in Minnesota wrote:

Thom Madura wrote:

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My point was <snip>- that religion cannot be supported by science.



And my example was to show how meaningless that statement was. An organized religion cannot be supported by science. So? In that sense neither can ANY organized group like.. schools, governments, grocery stores, the chess club, key club, the NFL, major and minor league baseball, and even the science club.


Then again none of those other groups you mention claim to teach its members absolute truths about life, the universe, and everything. If religion were simply another kind of social activity, where people meet once a week to get advice on how to be better people, I'd be cool with that. But once you claim to be imparting Unquestionable Supreme Truth, and then take the step further of imposing your beliefs on others, you had better present some evidence, something religions simply don't do.

Now, science doesn't always do a great job at this either, as evidence by the Chicken Little-esque obsession with unproven claims about Global Warming. But science is about 1,000 time more reliable than religion when it comes to eventually separating fact from wishful thinking.


Religions cannot provide evidence because it doesn't exist.

I think the worst thing a religion regularly does is justify itself by saying the " God works in strange and mysterious ways" - as if everyone is stupid enough to follow someone who is strange and mysterious.
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