Re: Prophecy,Snape,Voldemort and Dumbledore : A look at what is hidden


Dumbledore's Man wrote:
> Hi,
> I am gonna discuss something that is troubling me since i finished HBP.
>
>
>
> What exactly happened on that fateful night in Godric's Hollow?
> Nobody knows except Jo. And she is telling it to us step by step. Each
> book is filling in the details regarding that night, we are discovering
>
> more and more. I believe, even after 6th book, not everything is told
> to us. A large part of the mystery is yet unrevealed. But we now know
> enough to start speculating.
> And I am going to present my speculations about the 'Last Part of
> Mystery' to you all in this editorial.
>
>
> What got me thinking was the contradictory information given by Albus
> Dumbledore. In OOTP, while explaining the things to Harry, I remember
> him saying that the intruder (who overheard the prophecy) was caught
> and thrown off. So that he heard only the half of the prophecy and
> missed the most important bit: that about Dark Lord marking The One as
> his equal. Or so we believed till we met Trelawney in HBP. She clearly
> said she saw Severus Snape standing in the door. Mind you, this
> happened after she completed the prophecy. It is my (and indeed many
> others') guess that Snape heard the Full Prophecy.

Snape heard the last part of the prophecy, when the first is repeated.
It is only in the middle that the making equal part is said.

> Okay. We now leave the firm foundation of facts and journey into the
> thickets of guesswork. This is what I came up with when I started
> thinking about the Last Part of Mystery: Snape did hear the full
> prophecy. It was Dumbledore's Plan that Voldemort should hear the
> half f the prophecy. Everything in fact, except the bit about
> 'Marking someone as his equal.' This particular information was
> deliberately kept from Voldemort, with the aid of Dumbledore's
> faithful named Severus Snape.
>
>
> Now, what is this Plan? Following this line of thought, I can deduce
> that Dumbledore understood the importance of prophecy at once. The only

i don't think Dumbledore would have planned events in order to help
make the prophecy true, i think he just saw that it did come true.

> chance of vanquishing the Dark Lord was given to him. The prophecy
> clearly told him how to prepare the WEAPON that will vanquish
> Voldemort. Dumbledore then planned things carefully. On his orders,
> Severus ran to Voldemort and told him that he could hear only half of
> prophecy. And told him whatever he was supposed to tell. Voldemort,
> upon learning the prophecy, set out to kill Harry Potter due to the
> half-blood connection. Then, Dumbledore informed a woman about the
> situation. Lily James Potter. Whether or not James knew does not
> matter. But I think Lily did know. Dumbledore asked her to trick
> Voldemort into a magical contract (my life for Harry's) and then
> sacrifice herself BEFORE he killed Harry. The protection of Love that
> eventually led to Voldemort's (if only temporary) demise was
> orchestrated by Dumbledore. It was as much Voldemort's foolishness as
> Dumbledore's strategy that gave Harry his greatest defense and a
> future that helped him thwart Voldemort for four times.
>
>
> Snape could have proved handy in tricking-Voldemort-bit of plan. He
> could have asked for Lily's life as though he was making a deal when
> he told Voldemort about half-prophecy. That is what made Voldemort give
>
> her repeated chances of survival, instead of killing her
> unceremoniously like he killed James. As was told, Lily nagged him
> enough to make him kill her, breaking the promise he gave to Snape and
> to her. This led to Voldemort's demise.

Here you are contradicting JKR, in interview she said that Lily didn't
know her sacrifice would save harry's life

> Guys, i wan to know your opinions about this theory.

in a nutshell i don't think the theory holds together

> Reply fast!

i was the fastest!


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Jane Grey

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