Re: Just how does magic work?

On 1 Nov 2005 08:33:32 -0800, "zgirnius" <zgirnius@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
>> "Gerrit Vicin" :
>> > I think you can also ask thusly about mathematics: Do people invent or
>> > discover it? Because of the seeming existence of constances like pi I
>> > rather think the latter.
>> >
>> Electric Frog wrote:
>> Similarly in all science Gravity has always existed , Light showed
>> propertied of being a particle and a wave and no-doubt there must still be
>> things that we've yet to discover (such as the Unified Field) I guess there
>> must be experts in various field (thaumaturgy for example) who're pushing
>> the understanding back. Maybe no-one knows quite how magic works yet
>
>Oh, I don't know about sciences which describe the real world (I
>suppose that's definitely something we just discover...it is there,
>right?) But I think it can be argued that math is created.
>
>Yes, there are some lovely constants with amazing properties (pi, as
>Gerrit Vicin poionts out). But do the real numbers (of which pi is one
>example) really have an existence independent of us? Or is it that once
>we create the real numbers, we can then discover some of the amazing
>properties some of them, such as pi, have? A lot of math seems to work
>this way. You make up some sort of definition of some mathematical
>object, but then once you have it, and start working out the
>implications, you see that there are actually some very neat properties
>the new object has.
>
>What, if anything, this might say about how magic works, I couldn't
>say...

Math is the language with which god wrote the universe. Therefore,
god created math. we merely discovered what was already there.

If you don't support god, remember, math is everywhere, from conch
shells to planetary orbits. Things that existed before man and his
math did.
.

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