Re: Of Parseltonge and dragons (GoF movie speculation)


"Toon" <toon@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:30:11 GMT, "Ard Rhi"
> <[nospam]ardrhi@earthlink(anti-spam).net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Toon" <toon@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:01:47 -0700, "Fish Eye no Miko"
>>> <fisheye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ard Rhi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Vickie" <vick3ie@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's not be too pedantic here, after all < snakes are deaf. As are
>>>>>> dragons (IIRC) according to the chinese.
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry did not speak parseltongue to the dragon. Hermione has
>>>>> "hissed" instructions to Neville about how to properly make a
>>>>> shrinking solution. Does this mean they both learned parseltonuge?
>>>>
>>>>So, since Jo used the word one way once, she can't use it to mean
>>>>something
>>>>else at another time?
>>>>And, as I pointed out in that quote, the dragon doesn't move until after
>>>>Harry speaks to it.
>>>>To be honest, I don't know if he uses parseltongue on the Hornback or
>>>>not,
>>>>but I think there is evidence to suggest the possibility. I think
>>>>you're
>>>>dismissing it way too causally, and on pretty flimsy evidence.
>>>
>>> Ard Rhi never considers anything not directly stated in the book.
>>
>>You do not know me. Do not presume to know me. Don't speak of me as if you
>>do since that will only lead to a flame war.
>
> Not if I chose not to participate. You however, are dead set on
> starting some. besides, I don't presume. I assume. That way, by
> sacrificng myself and making an ass out of myself, I amke one out of
> you. and it's so totally worth it. I remember to have fun,a nd tot
> ry new theories out. I even offer proof for thsoe I object to, just
> to be fair.
>
>>> Which is a weird philosophy (or sorcerercy for us Americans) to have
>>> in a newsgroup based almost entirely on speculation, and out of the
>>> box thinking.
>>
>>You do not speak for the newsgroup.
>
> Says who? You? But you don't speak for the whole newsgroup, do you?
>
>>> Sure some will be way off, some will be close, some
>>> just sound good, some are just plain wrong, and some are just for fun,
>>> but at least we try, and expand our minds a tiny bit. Ard Rhi seems
>>> against that.
>>
>>So far you're not even contributing to the thread, you're just giving your
>>analysis of me. A poor one since you know me only from a few posts.
>
> So, now I have to contribute to every thread a reply to? Weird.
>
>>
>>> And Chinese dragons are very close to Snakes. Bit harder fort he
>>> European ones, but whatever. Same family, at least. if anything,
>>> Harry needs a new accent/dialect, and to watch out for inadvertent
>>> slang.
>>
>>Again with the so-called theory that has no support. Rowling has never
>>indicated that her dragons copy traits from our mythology. You even
>>contradict yourself when you say Chinese dragons are close to snakes...
>>Chinese dragons are supposedly deaf, as well, but you disregard that to
>>try
>>and defend this.
>
> You totally avoided my psychic snake theory, didn't you. Explains it
> all. Plus, who says JK's following the deaf bit? She already has
> nsles communciating with people in a snake language. No need to deal
> withd eaf dragons next. But if you were paying attention, you'd know
> I'm talking baout Euorpean Dragons, like the Horntail, who is, of
> course, not deaf. The Chinese as to reference a closer relation to
> snakes. Do try to keep up.
>
>> If you don't know what you're talking about, then you can't
>>realistically put it forth as a theory and defend it.
>
> Nor cna you atatck it, if you aren't even following what I'm saying,
> Mr. Plonk.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.harry-potter/browse_frm/thread/a17acd94fd7b4da7/a9f950fcb43761af?q=zoltan47&rnum=2#a9f950fcb43761af

Last post to you and then I am gonna take Zoltan's advice on you, again. I
should never have deviated from it; especially seeing as you can barely
debate in what passes for English.

No, I do not speak for the newsgroup. One doesn't have to speak for the
newsgroup in order to call you out as not speaking for the newsgroup. You
made a very presumptuous statement and rather than own up to it, you just
made worse ones. I see no point in continuing this thread with you. If
others have the gullibility to believe a word of what you said above, they
have my deepest sympathies... as do you.

Ard Rhi


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