Re: Another Question
- From: "Tim Peters" <tim.one@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:25:06 -0400
[LouAnn]
> ...
> Another problem I am having with Ms. Rowling's line of thinking, is the
> business of the 'love sacrifice protection' never happening before....
> NEVER? EVER? in the history of the world.
Since she said:
[JKR]
Now any mother, any normal mother would have done what Lily did.
perhaps we have to conclude that Lily was the very first normal mother ;-)
The key must be in this part (assuming it makes sense at all ...):
MA: So no one - Voldemort or anyone using Avada Kedavra -
ever gave someone a choice and then they took that option
[to die] -
JKR: They may have been given a choice, but not in that
particular way.
The only thing I recall about "that particular way" is Harry's
bogart-dementor inspired memory of V saying "Stand aside. Stand aside,
girl!" to Lily. Call me nuts too, but I just don't see that either as
having a credible claim to historical uniqueness.
> First, I am NOT buying that and second she is contradicting herself. She
> said in the interview that she wanted to make it clear that this has never
> happened before, yet Voldemort and Dumbledore have stated that this was
> Ancient Magic that he is aware of, but how? How could he have known about
> it? IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
To judge from CoS, even the 16-year old Tom Riddle knew all about this. He
engineered an elaborate plot to lure Harry into the Chamber. Why? To ask
Harry about one thing:
[Tom Riddle]
"/How did you survive?/ Tell me everything. The longer you talk,"
he added softly, "the longer you stay alive."
Harry only got a few sentences out before Tom was fully satisfied:
"So. Your mother died to save you. Yes, that's a powerful
counter-charm. I can see now ... there is nothing special about
you, after all ... it was merely a lucky chance that saved you from
me. That is all I wanted to know."
and he had no more interest in talking to Harry. Curiously, Harry had not
told Tom that Lily had a choice, he just said "Because my mother died to
save me.".
> So, unless, Jo is going to pull an incredible rabbit out of her hat, some
> ingenious twist that we never saw coming to pull all these lose end
> together, I am going to feel cheated and horribly disappointed in a story
> that has meant so much to me these last 4 years.
Seems especially hard to do given that young Tom didn't even know about the
"Lily had a choice" part.
That said, I'm not going to feel cheated no matter how it turns out. I've
had so much enjoyment from the books to date that even if she forgets to
mention Harry and Voldemort entirely in the last book, I won't regret an
instant of the time I gave to the first six books. C'mon, admit it: even
if it turns out to make no sense at all, on any level, we'll share a few
rounds of "Well, you know, Jo's mind just doesn't work that way", and
forgive her ;-)
.
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