Re: He is dead. Not coming back.

LadySri <amanda@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
:
: Louis Epstein wrote:
:> stam101 <gtdun7935@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> : How can he come back if his picture is already in the headmasters office?
:>
:> How could he have been alive when his picture was already
:> on Chocolate Frog cards??
:>
:> THE PICTURE BEING IN THE HEADMASTER'S OFFICE MEANS
:> *********NOTHING*********
:> IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT HE IS DEAD...
:> and I say that as someone who believes he IS dead
:> for good!
:>
:
:
: The Chocolate Frog cards are not portraits (like those in the
: headmaster's office, or the walls of St. Mungo's) but pictures (like
: photographs in the Daily Prophet, the picture Percy has of his
: girlfriend, and the photos Harry has of his parents.) The difference
: between these media is, to my mind, striking, and relevant to this
: idea. Portraits seems to have special powers of speaking with the world
: around them (even if they are, as JKR states, only echoes and 'stock'
: phrases from the person's life); pictures are silent- they can smile,
: wave, move off-frame, etc., but they do not speak. They are a similar,
: but clearly different, media.
:
: Therefore, being on the chocolate frog cards has no bearing on whether
: Dumbledore is alive, dead, pining for the fjords, or just resting after
: a prolonged squawk.
:
:
: However, the ex-headmaster portraits which sleep in the headmaster's
: office may be in important indicator of Dumbledore's status. So far,
: every single one of the headmasters on those walls when Dumbledore was
: headmaster was dead. However, has anyone had JKR clear this up? Are
: portraits in Hogwarts only of dead people? This appears to be the case:
:
: http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/news_view.cfm?id=80
:
: "All the paintings we have seen at Hogwarts are of dead people. They
: seem to be living through their portraits. How is this so? If there was
: a painting of Harry's parents, would he be able to obtain advice from
: them?
:
: That is a very good question. They are all of dead people; they are not
: as fully realised as ghosts, as you have probably noticed. The place
: where you see them really talk is in Dumbledore's office, primarily;
: the idea is that the previous headmasters and headmistresses leave
: behind a faint imprint of themselves. They leave their aura, almost, in
: the office and they can give some counsel to the present occupant, but
: it is not like being a ghost. They repeat catchphrases, almost. The
: portrait of Sirius' mother is not a very 3D personality; she is not
: very fully realised. She repeats catchphrases that she had when she was
: alive. If Harry had a portrait of his parents it would not help him a
: great deal. If he could meet them as ghosts, that would be a much more
: meaningful interaction, but as Nick explained at the end of Phoenix-I
: am straying into dangerous territory, but I think you probably know
: what he explained-there are some people who would not come back as
: ghosts because they are unafraid, or less afraid, of death."
:
:
:>From this interview, it appears that:
: 1. Dumbledore is dead.

Again,this is a big jump-to-conclusions.

That a particular set of portraits are all of dead people
does not mean that it is necessary,or even possible,for a
person to be dead at the time a portrait is created.

: 2. Voldemort is likely to become a ghost after his death.
:
: (wouldn't it be cool is the Bloody Baron kicked his ***... or the
: Dementors sucked him up? I suspect that one of the reasons Dumbledore
: doesn;t want dementors around the castle is that as soul-eaters,
: they're likely to eat ghosts... as well as living kids' souls... )

Would a Dementor who sucked out the soul of someone who
had left most of his soul in Horcruxes be left feeling
cheated/hungry?

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