Re: ASUS K8N-E Deluxe ( Deluxe problem)



StoneyStude wrote:
Paul wrote:
In article <_usZf.40506$C85.38580@dukeread10>, StoneyStude
<rfjohnstone@xxxxxxx> wrote:

rjohnsto wrote:
I've never used an ASUS Board, but ordered one to build a new system
last Dec. Asus K8N-E Deluxe, AMD 1.8Ghz, lotsa Ram, MSI 128Mb
video(FX5200), 400Watt PS, yada yada yada

When loading WinXP pro, the system will reboot at the point where
it's "Loading FAT file system" ... and proceed to the same
point and reboot, ad infinitum...

I found that by removing one of the 512MB ram sticks, the system would
proceed as expected. If you install more than 512 MB it will repeat
the above. The system has 3 DIMM slots,but I can only use one and
for no more than 512 MB

Thinking there was a DIMM slot problem, I returned the board to
Compuvest.com (a,renegade company...) in January, which is a story in
itself.... They returned another (different?) board, which as of
today, I find, does the exact same thing, as above.

Now, I know how to build a system. Maybe I haven't kept up with the
latest tech edges, but this problem seems to be odd enough to have
happened to others. Yet, I can't find a soul who has the slightest
idea why it's doing, what it does.

I'd venture to say now, that the BIOS should be flashed, but again,
can't find a word of advise on how to do it. ASUS .com does a good
job of insulating themselves by requiring reams of information, to
the point you give up.
Of the few Forums, I've gone thru the pains of joining and writing
this experience over and over, I get absolutely stupid responses....

So, I'm somewhat irritated......

Barring the Bios fix, I'd like a perspective on, why it's doing, what
it's doing. Is there any help here?

thanks

(Please copy to my email address with any responses)

Well, I see the Forum I joined onto last night, just puts their registerees questions onto a newsgroup....
and
Finding this NG just now ( shows I'm persistant), I downloaded all 9055 messages, searched them and none address flashing a K8N bios.... It would almost suggest that a K8N is, either a flawless board ... or maybe no one ever bought one...

will await anyones perspective, on the above problem...

thanks in advance.....

First, get yourself a copy of memtest86+ from www.memtest.org . You can make yourself a test floppy or a test CD, to test the
memory.

In your BIOS (section 4.4.5 of the manual), there is a "memclock
mode" setting. Set that to [Manual]. Now, that should give you
an additional setting. Set the "Memclock Value" to DDR333.
The "1T/2T Timing" should already be at [Auto]. I'd recommend
setting it to 2T if the setting existed, but Auto is the best
you can do there.

In section 4.4.2 of the manual, there is a "DDR RAM Voltage" setting.
Set that to [2.7V].

Now, get a copy of CPUZ from http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php .
That tool should allow you to verify what the BIOS has done,
once Windows is booted.

The best position for your two memory sticks, is in slot 1 and slot 3. The S754 processor has two address busses, one
is connected only to slot 1 and the other bus drives
slot 2 and slot 3. To make the loading even, you should use
slot 1, plus one of the other two slots. I think slot 1 and
slot 3 should be the best overall choice.

This is a common complaint for S754 boards. The memory controller is in the processor itself, so the problem follows the processor around, and not the motherboard model.
You'd have run into problems with other boards as well.

If memtest86+ does at least two passes error free, after
you've tuned up the memory settings, try booting into Windows.
If you get there OK, download a copy of Prime95 from mersenne.org
and run that. There is a "torture test" option in that program,
which carries out a calculation with a known answer, and it is
a reasonably good test that the processor can run at 100% without
problems. If you are a gamer, you can follow that up with some
games for a few hours, as a final test that all is well.

HTH,
Paul

Thanks, this is the long awaited, evasive, educated response. I've acquired Memtest back in January and thought it ran without any issues. Further, early on, I purchased more memory, in attempting to remedy the problem. Initial load was 2X512MB in Dimm1 and Dimm2 (DDR400), then 2X512Mb @ DDR333 in Dimm1 and 2, then a 1Gb at DDR333 in Dimm1. The last two types were from Kingston, but all gave the same result with the OS Load. Right now, I can't run more than 512 (in any slot) or the system craters.
I had someone a few months ago mention tweaking the voltage to the Dimm slots, but I thought the respondee was smoking something. I'd never fool with a new board that way, but if great minds think alike, then I'll give it a shot.. I did notice the manual showed that you could assign memory to odd slots, vs 1,2, then 3. It didn't elaborate on the reason. I'll try slots 1 and 3 as you recommend. Since the 1GB and 2 of the 512's are DDR333, I'll see if the manual mentions mixing them....( may as well use them all, but after this episode is resolved.)
Just acquired CPUZ and will load that too. Will try tomorrow AM to clear all this up.
Many thanks for your time and information.....

RJ

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound ungrateful. I should have said 'elusive'.
.



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