Re: Hdd WD running very hot in the drive bay 5.5"
- From: nospam@xxxxxxxxxx (Paul)
- Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:15:02 GMT
In article <k9e53259qrjdddgga8oon5r1ufpg7repa8@xxxxxxx>, What@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:54:40 GMT, nospam@xxxxxxxxxx (Paul) wrote:
In article <jcu43298lcj2s0e6pkbndgqrnd7mn7bvt2@xxxxxxx>, What@xxxxxxxx wrote:Well the smart option is enable in the bios.
Hdd WD running very hot in the drive bay 5.5"
I recently bought a 250 gig western digital se 16mb and i've find out
that this drive should run at around 45 c and for the moment it is at
70 c witch is over the spec limit.
Are western digital known to generate allot of heat.
70C would burn your fingers. A human finger can touch a 55C
surface for two seconds, before the discomfort would be
too great to continue. When you touch the drive casing,
what do your fingers tell you ?
If the drive was really at 70C, it would likely seize up
very quickly. The fluid dynamic bearings have a limited
amount of lubricant in them, and any bearing of that type
will (relatively) quickly lose the fluid if it is really
that hot.
Verify the case temp with your finger.
Is it possible this temperature reading is coming via
the SMART subsystem, and due to the lack of proper standards,
the temperature is miscoded ? Not all drives report
temperature the same way, and maybe the translation from
SMART statistic to a temperature number is not working
properly.
Paul
Also i have a maxtor drive just over it and it report it tempeture at
45 degrees c. That one i can touch it wht iout discomfort but for the
western digital one it is very hard to with stand the heat with the
finger on it "the case of the hard drive is very hot very very very
hot. Strangely i recall that my old western digital 40 Gs was running
very hot to but i don't recall that much heat.
As the drive are placed to the entrance of cd-rom drive, i removed the
plastic plate that cover the non use spaces and i manage to get a
temperature drop of 8 degrees. and at idling i get a 62°C.
The drive in question is place between a metal plate and my second
drive and it has 3/4" of space down and 1/2" up of space.
I'm really concern about that because in everest in the smart panel it
report all this:
[ WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 (WD-WCANK2107102) ]
01 Raw Read Error Rate 51 200 200
0 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 21 189 188 5525
OK: Value is normal
04 Start/Stop Count 0 100 100 7
OK: Always passing
05 Reallocated Sector Count 140 200 200 0
OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 51 200 200 0
OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 100 100 26
OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 51 100 253 0
OK: Value is normal
0B Calibration Retry Count 51 100 253 0
OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 0 100 100 7
OK: Always passing
### notice the 45°c normal use vs the 62°c at the moment.
BE <vendor-specific> 45 38 20 62
Advisory: Usage or age limit exceeded
C2 Temperature 0 88 70 62
OK: Always passing
C4 Reallocation Event Count 0 200 200 0
OK: Always passing
C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 200 200 0
OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100 253 0
OK: Always passing
C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 200 0
OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 51 100 253 0
OK: Value is normal
Finally if i enable the smart option in my bios why is windows xp pro
don't report to me an alert! I remember that my friends system was
telling him about is hard drive that it would be nice for him to save
his data and change the drive.
Should windows alert me for that kind of trouble or it is just like
you've said a miss reading from everest???
At least for me, SMART is not very well documented. Your finger
test is all the evidence I need.
Modern drives do not generally have very large power consumption
figures while they are idle. You are reporting conditions which
were more common with some of the old SCSI drives. They could
take the heat, and for cooling, typically you would locate
three fans blowing across the old SCSI drives to cool them.
Modern drives should not need that kind of provision.
I would try contacting WD tech support, and ask them whether
an abnormally high case temp is a reason to seek a warranty
replacement. I would not want to rely on such a drive, as
a safe place to store data. High temperatures and modern drives
don't mix, and my guess would be that the drive will not last
forever in its current state. Even if you make an extraordinary
effort to cool the outside of the drive, internally there could
still be a high temperature condition in there.
You can look at the "Idle Power Dissipation" table on this
page:
http://www.storagereview.com/comparison.html
The WD drives rate pretty good in the idle power department,
so there is no reason for them to run that hot.
Paul
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