Re: A7V8X-e Deluxe SATA Device Not Detected, Utility Disabled
- From: nospam@xxxxxxxxxx (Paul)
- Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:30:50 GMT
In article <1141782763.425874.59240@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Fordolet" <fordolet@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok I have one of these boards with 2 maxtor 80 GB SATA in a RAID1
Mirror. All of a sudden i get the message that the RAID set is
incomplete hit F4 to enter the raid utility. Now the drives are showing
up in the list showing that they are there, however i get the message
stated above.....device not detected, utility disabled......after that
the computer will not boot. I was ggoing to try and flash the BIOS but
thats prolly not gonna work as the problem is with the SATA BIOS. What
should I do? I was gonna replace the motherboard but i have heard that
the Silicon Images Raid controlers suck....so maybe just a new PCI Raid
controler. Will that work with out having to rebuild the raid set?
Scotty
PS HELP!!!!!!!
Well, the problem is, you don't know if the drive is actually
healthy or not. It could be a bad cable, a bad connection to
the drive, the "reserved sector" is corrupted, the declared
size of the drive is wrong, and as it is a Maxtor, perhaps the
defect table overflowed and killed the drive.
If this is your only computer, there is no way to test the
drive. I don't know if any diagnostic will run when a drive
is connected to the SIL3112. The manufacturer test programs
tend to work best when the drive is connected to a Southbridge
port.
I hesitate to make any suggestions with regard to RAID arrays,
because most people do not have backups, and there is no
recourse if my suggestion doesn't work out. Strictly
speaking, breaking the array, and remaking the array,
should fix it. But, the trick is, you have to know
which drive has a good copy of the data on it, in order
to know which of the two drives should be used to rebuild
the other. Just because the status of a drive is bad,
doesn't necessarily mean the data on it is gone, and to me,
that is what makes diagnosis of RAIDs so difficult.
If you feel that a later SATA RAID BIOS will help, you can
always upgrade the BIOS. The SATA RAID BIOS is part of the
main BIOS. The Asus BIOS file is modular inside, and the BIOS
is actually a tiny file system. You might find 8 or more
separate files inside it. One of the files might be "4250.bin",
which would be the 4.2.50 SATA RAID BIOS, for example. With
the Award BIOS, you can actually use a hex editor, and find
the names of the modules within the BIOS file. (Using an
Asus flashing program, to make a backup copy of the current
BIOS, would allow you to determine what modules are inside
there.) Of course, the RAID BIOS screen probably tells you
the release number of the RAID BIOS as well. For AMI BIOS,
there are tools on the web, like MMTOOL.exe , and tools like
that can be used to extract individual modules from a BIOS
file.
In any case, you don't need to do any of that, and just
upgrade your BIOS to the latest, from the Asus download
page. I don't think it is going to make any difference
to the information on the drives. Maybe the RAID BIOS
will stop complaining about an incomplete set, but just
maybe there is something physically wrong with one of
the drives.
I would try and find another computer with SATA interfaces
on it, that you could take your two drives and check
that they are accessable. Maybe you could make a backup
copy of one of the two disks, if you can get at the data.
With a good backup in your possession, then you could
start from scratch, and restore to the array. If it
was my data, the very first thing I would want to do,
is make a backup, before trying anything risky. (Think
for a moment - if you flash the BIOS and kill the
motherboard, you might not have another SATA interface
to get at the data. So think about doing the backup
first, and finding some media to put the files on.)
As has been mentioned in this newgroups in times past,
a RAID is not a replacement for a backup. You should
plan on having twice as many disks, as you really need,
so that you can make a backup of your valuable information
whenever you need it. Disks are relatively cheap, and
the sweet spot of about 200-250GB or so, means you could
pick up one drive and use it to back up a few of your
smaller drives. It is a fairly cheap form of "peace of
mind".
HTH,
Paul
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