Re: K8V-MX drivers ?

• From: nospam@xxxxxxxxxx (Paul)
• Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:57:38 GMT

In article <r89vt1libu0fdnk91kigqrtvgrtjugp2vh@xxxxxxx>, Shadow <sh@dow> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:08:59 GMT, nospam@xxxxxxxxxx (Paul) wrote:
> 
> >In article <a4hut1dkbcardkfubuq0srh7hmait95r82@xxxxxxx>, Shadow
<sh@dow> wrote:
> >
> >> Upgraded my TX97-E (still perfect) to this piece of apparent sh*&^&*t.
> >> Sound does not work with most of my games, video gives me
> >> blank windows if power down happens.
> >> Diablo 2 is slower than with an old duron board I had (video
> >> issue ?). Heroes of Might and Magic 4 ditto.
> >> Quake 3 works fine ? Is that a lead ?
> >> Have latest ASUS drivers and bios. Sempron 2600 cpu.
> >> Win98SE
> >> Any ideas ?
> >> 
> >> PS ... is my voodoo 3 pci 16MB inherently faster than the
> >> onboard SIS chipset ?
> >
> >The fastest Durons were the Model 8 ones, at 1400, 1600, and
> >1800MHz.
> > The Sempron 2600+ runs at 1600MHz and has pretty close
> >to the same amount of cache. The Sempron 2600+ will have
> >superior memory bandwidth. But if you put your mind to it,
> >a badly written application might perform as badly on both
> >platforms. (Try a copy of SuperPI or one of the other CPU
> >benchmarks, if you really want to see that the new platform
> >is faster.)
> 
> The new system is much faster. Its games that are slower. Or
> totally unplayable, due to no sound. OpenOffice and others 
> load much faster. No doubt at all.
> >
> >For graphics, remember that games support multiple render 
> >paths. If you have support in hardware for shaders, perhaps
> >the shaders are being used. If you had a video card with
> >simpler hardware, some games would simply refuse to run,
> >while others might render all effects with the CPU. It is
> >pretty hard to draw conclusions about system performance
> >due to stuff like that, as you don't know what render path
> >and level of sophistication is being used. Maybe the visual
> >appearance of the slow games is better ? 
> >
> >You cannot really expect to game with built-in graphics:
> >
> >  Integrated UniChrome Pro IGP 
> >  - Dual pixel pipelines 
> >  - 128-bit 2D/3D engine 
> >  - 200MHz engine clock speed 
> >  - 16-64MB shared memory  <--- slow texture memory
> 
> OK, so I bought the wrong motherboard. But even so, the sound
> drivers/hardware does not pass the DXDiag test. The one supplied with
> windows. Fresh windows 98SE install, latest drivers from site.
> (Resultado do teste do DirectSound: Falha na etapa 19 (Software
> verificado pelo usuário): HRESULT = 0x00000000 (código de erro))
> 
> And I thought I might be able to play old favorites, from 6-8
> years back, when memory was not the fastest, most video was PCI and
> 32MB video ram was tops.
> 
> The only other card I have on the MB is a USR 56K PCI modem,
> there appear to be no conflicts. I think my question was: is 
> the MB crappy, or is there hope that new video/sound drivers 
> might put it right  ? If so, where can I get such (beta?) drivers ?
>         TIA
> 
> PS Thanks for the links. Pity I did not see them before. 
> Can u recommend a cheap AGP 1.5v video card ? with 128-256Mb
> memory ? Something as compatible as my old voodoo was in its time ?
> Ditto for sound card ?

To start with, if you look at the reviews on Anandtech, the
motherboard doesn't influence the performance of S754 and S939
systems that strongly. To conclude the motherboard is crap, 
is premature, until you've analysed what is wrong with it.
And there are really no motherboards with built-in graphics
that give good gaming performance, so buying a different
model would not change that. To play games with demanding
graphics requirements requires a separate video card
for best results.

For example, I would start with CPUZ - click "CPU-Z 1.31"
(http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php)

CPUZ can dump hardware inventory information and can tell 
you what clock frequencies are being used for the
hardware. For example, this recent poster collected information
on his system here:

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus/msg/009e437f0aa09951?dmode=source

I see this sound driver on the download page. Uninstall whatever
sound driver is currently installed (via Add/Remove control
panel). Then install this. The "AC'97" should already be
enabled in the BIOS - it is enabled by default, but you can
check it again. The AD1888 is a pretty old AC'97 codec, and
should work fine with Win98SE.

SoundMax Audio Driver   Version 5.12.01.5150   2005/08/09 update 
OS Win98SE / WinME / Win2K / WinXP / Win2003 
File Size   27.2 (MBytes) 

http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock754/K8V-MX/SoundMAX512015150.zip

For a video card, many people use a 6600GT AGP version. This one
is the cheapest 6600GT card on Newegg. It uses a hard drive power
connector to get addition DC power - the power connector must
be installed for the video card to work properly. The 6600GT
is a compromise between price and performance - there are more
expensive cards if you can afford them.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130001

VGA performance charts are available here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/site/vgacharts/index.html

You can see the 6600GT does pretty well here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/05/vga_charts_vii/page5.html

You can go through this list, and see the price of the cards,
while you are browsing the video charts on Tomshardware. I hope
this link works properly for you.

(AGP 4X/8X cards sorted with lowest price first)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048+70001568&Subcategory=48

HTH,
     Paul
.

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