Re: P3B-F and S370-Slot-1 converter ?



Paul wrote:

In article <buk4f.11356$vD4.625912@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, P2B
<p2b@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Roland wrote:


Thanks Paul for the great link to that website, I will look for it, maybe I
find a solution!

Roland.

I think we need to go back over this carefully, because you seem to have all the prerequisites, yet it doesn't work.

You say you have the latest beta BIOS, that's a requirement.

Your board is revision 1.04, which should have a Tualatin-capable voltage regulator according to Asus. The fact you get an 'alarm' when you power the system on is a good sign - the board should shut down immediately and completely (all fans stopped) if it cannot supply the requested CPU voltage - but check the numbers on your VRM chip as Paul suggested, just to be sure.

Your slot adapter appears to support Tualatin processors, since you say the adapter/CPU combination works on another board.

So it should work - but maybe something broke while you were working on the upgrade.

Make sure your adapter/CPU combination still works on the other board you tested.

Make sure your P3B-F system still works with the original P3 750 installed.

If all of the above checks out, but the upgrade still won't work, I think we have to conclude that the CPU/adapter/motherboard combination is somehow incompatible.

In that case your best bet would be to try an Upgradeware Slot-T adapter instead. In my experience, they always work on all Asus 440BX chipset motherboards.

HTH

P2B 


I guess I should be reading the original posts more carefully :-)

The alarm sound would require a working processor to make that
sound. It could be an overheat alarm, for example. Or maybe
an overvoltage ? Or the BIOS thinks it is an undervoltage ?

AFAIK, there is a piece of hardware for making a tone in the
computer speaker. But it has to be programmed by the CPU in order to make a sound. To make the "European Police Car" sound
requires changing the programming a couple times a second,
and that means the processor is running. 

Quote from the Winbond data***:

"Also W83781D uniquely provides an optional feature: early stage (before BIOS was load) beep warning. This is to detect if the fatal elements present --- VcoreA, +3.3V voltage fail, and the system can not be boomed up."

Clearly it is possible for the board to squawk even with no processor present. The data*** does not appear to describe this "early stage beep warning", but my repair notes for one dead P3B-F here say it made a siren noise even with no CPU or RAM. I can't verify that as the board has been raided for parts...

P2B

If we assume for a second, that the motherboard is monitoring the
diode temperature, maybe there is a bad connection or problem
with the CPU diode. It could be the hardware monitor is seeing
an abnormal voltage on the CPU diode, because something isn't
making good connections. It likely is not a loose heatsink, as you would have had trouble while running the slocket on the
other computer.

Is the sound actually the "European Police Car" sound ?

   Paul


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In article <4351710b$0$11067$e4fe514c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Roland"
<pd2rld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Hello Daniel,

Thanks for your messages!
Strange thing is, the CPU is tested on the card that I have, and it


works!


But not on my P3B-F board.

I heard something about a reset of the P3B-F with a jumper, I must try 

this.


Another question is, must I change something on my motherboard or bios 

to


get it work?

And, I hear about a Slot-T converter... But I don't know if this 

works...


Many questions and many options, and if one of these options give an 

error


of make a failure, the whole PC didn't startup... I can search for 

another


converter-card, maybe I have more luck with that...

Thanks,

Roland.


Take a look at Roland's FAQ:

http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html

Boards with PCB revision 1.03 or greater, appear to have a voltage
regulator suitable for Tualatin processors. Before revision 1.03,
the voltage regulator goes from 1.8V on upwards. Revision 1.03 or
greater has a voltage regulator that allows operation at 1.5V,
which is the voltage that the Tualatin requests.

To solve this problem on my P2B-S, I actually unsoldered the
CPU Vreg chip and replaced it with a pin-for-pin compatible
chip. By using a 1.5V capable regulator, I was able to use a
cheap Upgradeware Slot-T adapter and a Tualatin. If I had chosen
not to change the regulator, I would have needed a Powerleap PL-iP3/T
(the one with a regulator right on the slocket).

If you look at Roland's list of Tualatin capable voltage regulators,
they tend to have the letter "B" on the part number.

HIP6019BCB
HIP6020ACB
HIP6004CB
HIP6004BCB
US3007CW

That chip will be located near the CPU, and on your board, the
ATX main power connector is right next to it.

In terms of the reference material, this early Asus document lists
revision 1.03 as the minimum revision for the proper voltage
regulator chip.




http://web.archive.org/web/20030411152458/http://www.asuscom.de/support/FAQ/faq086b_CPU_Upgrade_III.htm

The current standing page at Asus, lists revision 1.04. In any case,
looking at the voltage regulator chip itself is the "tie breaker" :-)

http://rma.asus.de/support/FAQ/faq086b_CPU_Upgrade_III.htm

 Paul



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Hi Roland!



I would suggest a NEW Tualatin Slot-1 Adapter (s370 and s370-II, also
known as FC-PGA-II)





I don´t know if the Gigabyte Adpater can hold FC-PGA2 (Tualatin) 

Cpu´s.


I don´t think so.




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic 



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