Re: Buffer overrun and "Trend chipaway Virus (R) on guard"!?
- From: Paul <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:15:48 -0400
There is ONE IDE cable connected to the mobo- I have had it set up with
the CDROM (Sony) as the slave (jumpered as slave), on the center
the HDD is at the end connection/Master and is jumpered that way) for
some years, BUT now is indicating NONE!
I also tried; M---------HDD(M)---------free
I got nothing on slave or master in BIOS
I again cleared the CMOS and reset the time and date.
I got a new IDE cable and I reinstalled the WinXP loaded HDD and one 1GB
I put the HDD in the center connection (as you suggested) on the cable
and the CDROM on the end and it got as far as to the old familiar
"Buffer overrun" flag and that was it and it shut down.
I will try more latter, if it now got back that far again, I will try
to reformat and reinstall again, on that one.
I installed the HDD with the Win98se installed on it-AND I got Win98se
going into windows in safe mode!- Hurray! I put the the proper display
driver in place and the Modem driver and Win98se look like it is ready
to use right now.
Paul, at least we got it back that far! I will be spending more time
with the WinXP problem and see if I can't get past the " "Buffer
overrun" problem and get the HDD formulated again and see if I can't
start over and try to figure out what is giving me that problem. I'm
staying away from SAS download. I will try some different free A/V
program- do you know of a good one?
Thanks again Paul. I will keep you posted on any progress or failures!
Just for the record, I'll go through jumpering one more time.
1) If you have one drive on the cable, it goes on the end connector.
If you have one drive, the jumper choice is "Master". On a Western
Digital drive, they mention "Master Only" as the jumper choice.
Western Digital has two flavors of Master - there is "Master only"
for a single drive, and "Master with slave". Check the drive label
2) You should not place a single drive, all by itself, on the middle
connector. That gives worse signal quality (data corruption).
3) When using two drives, one drive is master, the other drive slave.
As far as I know, it doesn't matter which drive goes on which
connector. It can be master,slave or slave,master. The speed of
each drive is independent of the other, so a UDMA2 optical drive
can share a cable with a UDMA5 hard drive.
4) There are two kinds of cables. A 40 wire cable is the old type.
An 80 wire cable is the new type. The 80 wire cable has better
signal quality, and the computer software can detect that an 80 wire
cable is present. That allows the driver to select higher UDMA
5) The 80 wire cables also typically support "Cable_Select" jumpering.
Cable_Select is preferred by Dell/HP/Gateway/Acer, because all
their piles of drives at the factory get jumpered one way.
With an 80 wire cable, you can stick a single Cable_Select drive on
the end connector and it would work. With two drives, you just plug
them in and they work. That is why Cable_Select is preferred at the
factory. The staff don't even change the jumpers - the drives are
delivered to Dell, with the jumper already at Cable_Select.
6) It is always possible to have anomalies with older systems. People
are always finding unique combinations that work for them, which
defy the above rules. But what I'd prefer to see, is a logical
reason for it.
Keep careful notes, while you're experimenting. That way, you'll be
able to return to the working configuration you've discovered right
If you want to experiment with WinXP, I recommend a separate drive
from your Win98 one. I small separate IDE drive can be purchased
now for about $40. When installing an OS, only have the target
drive connected during the install. That way, there is no possibility
of your working configuration being damaged. If the install fails
again, then you can plug in your Win98 drive, and at least use the
computer for additional downloads, or diagnostics, and so on.
I don't know if you're on broadband, but if you are, you should
get yourself some version of Linux LiveCD. I use Knoppix, but
the best version of that one, is a very large download (~4.4GB).
You have to save that download, on an NTFS partition, because
4GB is the largest file you can store on FAT32. I use Knoppix 5.3.1,
because it has all the tools I might need, to get out of a jam.
(I'd really have appreciated if they made a CD version of that
one, but the DVD version is all that there is.)
Ubuntu is another alternative. But it doesn't display as much
useful information on the screen while booting.
In terms of booting, I like Knoppix because I believe it has
worked on every computer I've tried it on here. I've tried
perhaps four or five other Linux distros, and many of those
won't boot on my current machine. So that is another way
I evaluate them, in terms of their ability to "get alone".
I downloaded a Suse Linux distro the other day, and tried
to run it in the free Virtual PC thing from Microsoft,
and the kernel on Suse crashed. Knoppix, on the other hand,
came up no problem at all. I don't know how the Knoppix
guy does it, but he seems to have the configurations
pretty thoroughly tested.
At a bare minimum, what a Linux LiveCD gives you, is a
web browser. So you may be able to browse somewhere, or
with some work, post to USENET. And since it is free,
only the cost of the download is a consideration. Those
distros are too big for dialup, in which case, buying a
pre-burned CD is another option. (I did that years ago,
so I could get a FreeBSD distro.)
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