Re: New build freezes

On Dec 26, 11:30 am, "Ron AF Greve" <me@localhost> wrote:
I thought it was the mobo too since it seemed I excluded all other things.
That's why I replaced the Gigabyte board with the asus one. After rebuilding
it I was sure the freeze was gone (so I thought) until I started oblivion it
frooze after a minute or so. It has run longer than it has before without
that second stick.

You keep replacing parts on speculation. IOW you don't know what
the problem is, so you replace parts - called shotgunning.
Professionals who shotgun quickly find themselves unemployed.

Others posted classic answers based only on "we did this and for
some strange reason the failure stops". Now stop replacing things.
First discover what is wrong. For example, you had voltages from a
voltage monitor. But since you did not post those numbers, then the
few who actually know this stuff stayed silent.

That motherboard monitor must first be calibrated with a 3.5 digit
multimeter. And voltages are best measured only with a maximum load.
In your case, critically important VDC numbers are on the gray, green,
and purple wire both before and when power switch is pressed. And
then on any one of orange, yellow, and red wires when system is
operating. Those numbers are chock full of information you will not
learn about until posting them.

A power supply is like a house foundation. Everything else that is
good may act badly if the foundation is crumbling. Until you have
established a power supply 'system' (yes more than just a power
supply) as definitively good, then all other testing (or shotgunning)
becomes counter productive.

Also important are other facts - long before fixing anything - such
as the system (event) logs where Windows sees a problem, records it,
then works around it. What did those logs report?

More responsible computer manufacturers provide comprehensive
hardware diagnostics for free just for your problem. You don't have
those free diagnostics. So get diagnostics from each component
manufacturer or from third parties. The actual hardware that can
cause your failure is limited to CPU, some motherboard functions,
memory, sound card, video controller, and obviously the entire power
supply 'system'. Until a supply 'system' is confirmed - without doubt
using a multimeter - then other suspect can only remain suspected.

Other useful tools and concepts may be discussed after supply
'system' numbers are provided.

.

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