Re: problem with my new sata hard disk

nrkreddy046@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Dec 22, 4:59 am, Paul <nos...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
nrkreddy...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Dec 21, 5:50 pm, Paul <nos...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
nrkreddy...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi all
yesterday i brougt new sata hard disk along with all ide to sata
converters. i have connected my sata hard disk to my mother board,
but when i checked in bios my hard is not detected by my motherboad.
how to instal windows os on my hard disk with out floppy drive, some
groups are suggesting that install the sata drivers by floppy drive
while installing the os. can any one suggest how to install os with
out use of foppy drive and also i dont have sata drivers. please do
the favour
Can we know the motherboard brand and model number ?
With the converter present, the hard drive will likely look
like an IDE drive. it is possible no driver is needed.
My guess would be the converter is not the right type.
Are you absolutely sure the converter is the type
you think it is ?
There are three types of converters.
1) SATA host to IDE hard drive.
2) IDE host to SATA hard drive.
3) Bidirection converter with jumper to make it do
(1) or (2).
If you need help identifying the converter, either
give some part numbers and brand names, or a web
page showing what you bought.
Also, when using a converter, you might try connecting
the "IDE host to SATA hard drive adapter" to the connector
on the end of the ribbon cable, and only have one
SATA hard drive connected for the first test. Then, enter
the BIOS and see if the hard drive is detected as an IDE
drive. You should check the instructions for the adapter,
to see if it can function as a master, a slave, or cable select.
HTH,
Paul
thank u very much paul for ur reply
my mother board is intel D845GLAD
and my converter type is bidirectional (exactly i dont know the brand
some thing like zippys)
i havn't done any jumper adjustment. i dont havr any product manual
for this converter.
please help me.
nrk
The motherboard has an ICH4 Southbridge and two ribbon cable IDE
interfaces.

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d845glad/index.htm

If the adapter is bidirectional, it may have more than one jumper.
One jumper may set SATA-->IDE or SATA<--IDE, the other may set
Master/Slave/Cable_Select for the IDE interface. I would need
more information about the adapter, to be able to look it up.

Does your adapter look like any of the units in the pictures here ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=200001035...

This is an example of a bidirectional adapter from Syba, using
a Jmicron JM20330.

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/12-186-032-03.jpg

For that one, you place the jumpers in the "SATA to IDE" jumper
positions, as shown in the picture here.

http://it.us.syba.com/product/41/04/SY-BIR-IDESA/sy-bir-idesa.jpg

The adapter needs a source of power. There should be a Molex four
pin cable, which connects to the ATX power supply. That supplies
power to the chip inside the adapter. The hard drive also needs
its power cable connected as well. There are some examples of the
cables here.

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/12-186-032-05.jpg

You'll need to enter the BIOS and see if the drive is detected,
to know whether the adapter is working.

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paul

iam using following converter
http://4dimpex.tradeindia.com/Exporters_Suppliers/Exporter13641.196257/IDE-to-SATA-Converter.html

but it looks like not problem with converter. because there are no
jumpers nothing in it.
it is pretty state farward, it has two tabs one for ide to sata, other
for sata to id and one more for power supply to adaptor.
most of the people suggesting that it is problem with motherboard, to
resolve this i need to instal the sata updation driver for my mother
board (intel D845GLAD). iam not able to find approprite driver for my
motherboard. please help me in finding right driver for my mother
board.

That adapter is similar to the Koutech ASA-220. One SATA connector is labeled
"SATA host" and you don't want to use that one. The other one would be
for your SATA disk.

Connect the adapter to the end of the ribbon cable. Don't have any other
drive connected to the same ribbon. The connection would look like
this. Also, try to use a 80 wire ribbon cable (the one with the
thinner wire). Ribbon cables come in two general types, some
with 40 wires, and some with 80 thinner wires. The 80 wire cable
is preferred, and likely supports cable_select as a choice.

X --- "SATA Host"\
\___ IDE ____+ (ribbon cable)
SATA_Hard_Drive --- "SATA Disk" / |
|
+ (no drive on middle connector)
|
|
X Motherboard IDE connector

The ICH4 Southbridge chip has two IDE ribbon cable interfaces. There
will be no SATA driver for such a chip. So that is not a solution.
A SATA driver will not install, because the numeric enumeration
of the driver will not match the hardware.

A potential issue, is whether the D845GLAD motherboard supports
hard drives larger than 137GB. That is called support for
"48 bit LBA". The Intel manual is dated Mar 4, 2002, while motherboards
generally became compliant around 2003. You could try testing with
an 80GB SATA or 120GB SATA drive, to see if that is the problem.
I don't know what symptoms to expect with a 48 bit LBA drive and
a 28 bit capable motherboard. (The 28 bits are used to address
a particular 512 byte sector.) In some cases, updating the BIOS
may make a difference (check the release notes for the BIOS,
to see if one BIOS release introduced large drive support).

Make sure the adapter has its power cable connected, as well as
the disk drive having its power cable connected.

That is about all I can suggest. It doesn't look like the adapter
has Master/Slave/Cable_Select options, which means the adapter
may be Cable_Select (so you could use two adapters on the same
cable), or the adapter could be Master. If the adapter is set
up to be Master, that means two adapters cannot be used on the
same cable. That is why, for the drawing above, I recommend a
single adapter for your first test.

Paul
.

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