Re: will water cooling help lower ambient room temps? good systems for a newbie?




"John Weiss" <jrweiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"markm75" <markm75c@xxxxxxx> wrote...

Go to Intel to get the *operating* specs for your
CPU. The device is still supposed to work within that operating range
of temperatures (provided you haven't modified anything, like
overclocking). If the operating range for a CPU is up to 80C and
someone says they get flaky operation at 65C and why they are
desparately trying to lower temperatures then they've told you their CPU
is defective and they didn't bother to get it warranty replaced. For
the x7 9650, I think the max operating temperature is 70C. That is its
*operating* range for continuous use.


I did some more temperature checking, the ambient right next to my pc is
81F, down where i sit its more like 77.. when i said 114F, this is just
behind each 4870's exhaust, on the outside of the pc case at the bottom..
thats probably the biggest contributer to the "heat"..

I'm still thinking the twin fan setup may help.. short of ducting the
heat to the fan.. and short of going water cooling with the
radiator/resev. somewhere else.. not even sure where else i could route
it.

Intel (http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB8W) sez the
thermal spec for the Q9650 is 71.4C. If you're running 55C at idle, you
could well be approaching 70C at full load (if you ever use it at full
load). If the CPU is used lightly/intermittently, though, you may not hit
60C... While the CPU has a thermal protection feature, it's not a good
practice to rely on it, especially if you know it is running relatively
hot.

With his high ambient temps, it would be normal to see higher than normal
idle temps. In the cases I have seen like his, many times the temperature
spread is very narrow........like idle in the mid-50sC and maxing out in the
mid-60s. I would not worry much about the idle temps because of that and
look at the load temperatures. If the thermal spec is 72C, it would probably
start throttling back at about 75C (that is about where most Intels start).
The video card exhaust is normal and a good thing because that hot air is
exhausting out of the case and should not contribute much to the internal
temps. One thing I would measure is the temperature inside the closed case
as close to the center as possible. This will give a good idea of what his
ambient case temp is and a better idea of what kind of extra cooling may or
may not be needed.


Ed



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