Re: Need Firewall?
- From: "Rarius" <rarius@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:25:03 +0100
"John Doe" <jdoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Rarius" <rarius@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"John Doe" <jdoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
Mista Fadedglory <mistafadedglory@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I recently purchased a Linksys wireless router to have a
wireless network in my house. with that I'm wondering, do I
need a software firewall like Comodo or ZoneAlarm anymore? I
thought that I had heard that there is no need for those if I
have a "hard" router.
I'm no expert, but I disable the hardware firewall and use the
software firewall because it allows easy control over individual
programs. The only reason I disable the hardware firewall is
because it interferes with stuff. So, if I were you, I would use
the software firewall, and if you have communications
difficulties, try disabling the hardware firewall. That is,
unless you don't need the user friendliness of the software
firewall.
Mista Fadedglory,
If you want to reply to the original poster, reply to the original
poster, maroon.
Mr Doe... STFU! FadedGlory WAS the original poster, but I wished to discuss
your pour advice as well.
So get your facts right before you go off on one of your ill considered
personal attacks!
BTW do you actually know what a maroon is? No? I'll tell you then... it is
an explosive device which if handled wrongly will take your arm off! Be
careful Mr Doe!
Everything I am about to say is predicated on the assumption that
your particular router does have a hardware firewall built in.
Most do, but not all. Its worth checking!
I would probably do the absolute opposite to what Mr Doe has
suggested. [Besides being a troll,] I say this for several
reasons...
You consider me a troll... Hmm.. another useless personal attack that fails
to progress the discussion.
3) Hardware firewalls are usually quite easy to configure.
Relative to a software firewall like ZoneAlarm, that's nonsense.
This is NOT nonsense. Most domestic routers have a web-base front end that
can be accessed across the network. My experience with ZoneAlarm leads me
to think that although it appears easy to configure, you are in fact
"herding cats"and at best you are hinting to the engine what you want and it
decides what it will actually do. I admit that as a network admin and
developer, I probably find talk of ports and IP addresses easier than you,
but its really not that difficult.
The default
settings are generally right for most people. Anything out,
nothing in!
Once again, the troll is speaking from ignorance about personal
computing. The idea of letting anything out does not work for many
personal computer users because sometimes we download and run
programs that are not safe. A software firewall like ZoneAlarm
alerts us about outgoing traffic that isn't necessary and that is
potentially harmful.
Read point 6 below! You shouldn't HAVE Malware on your PC in the first
place. Stopping it from accessing the net is closing the stable door after
the horse has bolted.
4) Software firewalls have been known to conflict with other
software.
Like what, virtual machines? Maroon.
Even ZoneLabs admitted in a press release earlier this year that ZA was
broken by a windows security update. The only workaround was to lower the
ZoneAlarm's security level!
Kaspersky, AntiVir and McAfee antivirus have both reported incompatibilities
with ZA
Microsoft listed ZoneAlarm as incompatible with Vista SP1. ZoneLabs had to
issue a update to workaround the issue.
Even some hardware is incompatible... USB Wi-Fi dongles etc.
Do you even know what a virtual machine is?
5) Software firewalls are often difficult to configure to
allow file or
print sharing between PCs on the local network.
Even if that were true, many personal computers are stand-alone.
It is true. I cant count the number of times I have been called in to
offices to sort out a printing problem only to find that some idiot has
installed ZoneAlarm, "because he thought it was a good idea".
Yes, many are stand-alone... but many are not. My point stands.
A software firewall and a good backup system is why I don't need
antivirus software that interferes with
downloads/transfers/messaging and slows down my computer.
My hardware firewall is set to "allow all" and I have no problems or
worries about viruses, period.
Boy, are you asking for trouble... A good antivirus package will not
interfere with downloads etc or slow down you machine. If you had any idea
of what it is actually doing "under the bonnet" you wouldn't write such
drivel! Most antivirus software will use far less than 1% of system
resources and will be totally transparent to the user.
Software firewalls do NOT stop viruses. No firewalls stop viruses!
A good backup system is always a good idea... but prevention is always
better than cure!
Rarius
(professional network admin for five years prior to my current job
as senior software engineer)
Says someone who didn't know personal computer homebuilders buy OEM
hard drives. You are in the right place, Rarius, here you will learn
about personal computers.
Please don't misrepresent earlier arguments Mr Doe. I never said that and
you know it. Accusing someone of something does NOT make it true.
Rarius
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