Re: Win2000 PC locks up in BIOS, but not Safe Mode?

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Joseph O'Brien"
<obrien1984@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mar 8, 10:07 pm, Frank McCoy <mcc...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Joseph O'Brien"





<obrien1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 7, 5:38 pm, Frank McCoy <mcc...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "johns" <johns...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It runs just fine in Windows Safe Mode.

Safe Mode doesn't load drivers that access certain
hardware. No doubt you've got something going
bad. In a box this old, I would be really suspicious
about bad spots on the hard drive. Maybe one of
those drivers in standard boot, is coming off a
bad spot on the drive, and so is corrupting
the system. Run Chkdsk and see.

If that don't work, try running msconfig (or better-yet, Startup
Manager)http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/tbmain.htmlandtry
disabling loaded drivers using a binary-search, until you find out which
one is blowing the system.  Then find another copy and reload that
driver.

(Binary search:
 Disable *half* the drivers.  If it works then, then the bad
 driver was in the half you disabled; so re-enable half of them.
 If it still doesn't work, then likely the bad driver was in the half
 you did *not* disable; so re-enable all the ones you disabled, and
 disable half of the ones you didn't.
 Repeat this with smaller fractions until you find one driver or loaded
 utility that allows the system to work when disabled, while crashing
 things when enabled.)
Once found, re-enable the errant software, use "Add or remove programs"
in Control-Panel to remove it properly (in Safe-Mode, if necessary) and
then re-install it, either from disk or off the net.

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Thanks for that tip. Sounds like what I used to do with Extension
Manager in the old days of Mac OS9.

Doesn't anyone think it's a little weird that the computera also hangs
in BIOS, though?

Have you run a good memory test?http://www.memtest86.com/#algo


Yes, I actually used memtest86; it checks out fine.

Argh. The frustrating thing is that I would be HAPPY to build or buy
another Windows 2000 box. All this computer does is run as a front end
interface to a perimeter security system, which I hardly ever access.
However, the software is proprietary and generates a registration code
tied to the hardware, and it's next to impossible to get the company
to issue a new one (it makes dealing with Microsoft's activation scam
seem easy). Unfortunately, the security system needs to update the
clocks on its terminals on March 10 (DST), and to do that, the Windows
2000 box needs to be running.

I've got a laptop that's running Windows Me that I'd like to ....
I'm trying to figure out why *any* program would need W-2000 or W-Me,
rather than something that works like Win-98.

Of course, the laptop I have saying it was *designed* specifically for
Win-Me, is why I haven't put Win-98SE on the thing. Everybody *tells*
me that 98 will run on it; but facing the two-weeks or so it usually
takes me to get an OS running completely with all my software, against
the chance it might *not* work ....

What's on there runs. Crappily; but runs.
I think Me is about the cruddiest piece of software ever to hit the open
market; and I could name some real doozies.

And, yes, the software only runs on Windows 2000... :(

Anyway, I'll keep hacking away at it. Thanks for all the good advice,
everyone.

Joseph

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