Re: Bad sectors... how bad?

David Maynard <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>
> Hate to tell you this but what you call 'defective' is simply life in
> the computer O.S. world, or any software for that matter. Go ahead and
> install Linux, if you like, and then check for the gazillion security
> updates/patches/fixes for it as well.
>

Dude, linux is free, if MS want's to start giving away their OS's I'll
gladly stop complaining. Besides, you can't seriously be suggesting that
Linux and Mac Os's are experiencing anywhere near the security problems
that MS does. Macs have always been way more stable.

>
> You're complaining about 'reality' and there is no law that can make
> people omniscient nor infallible. Software of any significant
> complexity contains bugs and software written to fix bugs will contain
> bugs. And it will always be that way was long as there are human
> beings involved.
>

I'm not asking for perfection, I'm just asking for a price that reflects
actual quality of the product. And don't talk to me about complexity,
they choose to build that complexity into the product, it's not required
or necessary. You used to be able to go into your ten line auto exec
batch command and fix boot problems in two minutes. MS just keeps adding
bells and whistles, and every bell and whistle they add is another
potential problem. They choose to integrate Explorer to a rediculous
extent, and Outlook etc. Obviously the Browser didn't need to be
integrated into the OS because other browsers work just fine without such
integration. On and on I could go.


>
> Simple to solve all by your own little lonesome: don't buy upgrade
> CDs.

Pay twice as much for the exact same disk.. yeah.

>
>> I think the only difference between the $200 XP disk
>> and the $100 upgrade is that the upgrade looks for previous installs.
>
> Yep. They give you an break on a new O.S. if you've previously bought
> one. Nice of them, don't you think?

Nope, I do not think it's nice of them. Look, I'm using their operating
system either way and they profit form that. It's got nothing to do with
nice. They keep producing crappy OS's with security bugs, which in turn
have to be replaced with the next generation crappy OS. This is their
marketing strategy, not mine.

>
> Basically you're gaming the system by perpetually buying 'upgrade' CDs
> and then complaining they don't make it even easier for you to avoid
> buying the O.S.

I'm not gaming anything, I'm buying legitimate products that MS chooses
to sell.

>
>> No MS OS should cost more than $100 from now on.
>
> Well, while we're going to dictate prices why not declare that no car
> shall cost more than 1,000 dollars and TV sets shall be 20 bucks?
>

Dude, the only reason MS can charge these prices for a messed up OS is
that they have a monopoly that they established illegally.

>>
>
> ... you can order a SP2 CD for free, plus shipping and handling.
>
>> every six
>> months.

Dude it's the same disk they released a year ago, you still have to go
online to fully update all the patches.

> So when a vulnerability is found you want to remain vulnerable for 6
> months, eh?

No, you are vulnerable forever and always with MS products.

>
> With the exception of your arbitrary '6 months' time table they
> already do essentially that with the service pack releases.

Again, the SP's are not released every six months, hence the SP "2"
instead of SP4 or 5.

>
>> No one with a dial up should have to sit around for six hours
>> with a vulnerable OS waiting for all the patches to download and
>> install on your brand new $100 operating system! The background
>> option is fine for weekly maintaince, but after six months, your
>> usually looking multiple and large patches and program updates.
>

Again, at this point, when you get SP2, you are already one year behind
in patches and upgrades. You have to go online to the last years worth
of patches, if you have a dial up connection your looking at hours and
hours of downloads. Remember, you don't leave dial ups connected all the
time unless you have a second line.

>> That's what I say!
>>
>> Paul.
>

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