Re: Please diagnose my problem!
- From: "Sparex" <Spare.parts@xxxxxxx>
- Date: 19 Aug 2005 11:18:05 -0700
hmm this seems to be a pretty stubborn problem..
Power is fine..
ram seems fine..
Can you test video card?
the beep codes are a good indicator that your MB is fine.. but follow
Bob M's Advice and look for anything odd about it.. Bad Caps, or
anything that doesn't look like it was when it was original..
107C? no processor can stand that temp..thats 224F.. you could boil
water on your CPU..if thats 107F.. thats 41C.. and thats fine...
but if it really is 107C or close.. then that leads me to belive your
CPU fan failed and you toasted your CPU.. (would also give you a
repeating beep code)
80+C is BAD - Crispy critter in seconds...
if your program wasn't set up right and had a variation of 25C or more
is rather hard to belive.
im really hopin thats F and not C...
as for the ram test.. even if you had 2 sticks or 20.. if they were in
that computer, then you should test a ram error with them.. you should
use an outside stick to test it just to make sure its not a ram error..
cause if your 2 are bad.. then in or out you will get the same error..
so thats why ya need that outside chip that you know is good..
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I was gonna save this till after we checked everything else but if
those temps are really Celcius.. then you'll need to take a look at
your processor...
now im sure you have some experience in system building and
heatsink/CPU interfacing... If not.. Stop now and find a local friend
or shop that will remove, test, and reinstall your CPU properly for
you..
---Do it your self method, If you had someone else build this system
for you and you never built a system before.. then get them to help
you..
If you think your Ready for this, proceed at your own risk, all Im
doing is advising, if you have some experience in this then you should
know what do you, I'm just gonna mark of the steps that have special
details about them. If your proceeding on your own and you've not done
this alot.. good luck you can cause more harm then good if you dont do
this right.. you were warned..
--before you do this.. get some replacement thermal compound, and
thermal compound remover... www.articsilver.com (Get thier remover and
compounds.. best i've ever used) Artic silver 5 is fantastic stuff..
more on use later..---
Attach your Anti-static strap (if you use one.. if you dont then do
what i do when i dont have mine and keep your arm or hand on the case
at all times to stay grounded)
disconnect everything..
Now your choice, you can remove the MB from the case and put on a
clean, level, static free suface, or you can leave it in there like i
do and go from there..
Remove the Heatsink carefully, it might stick a little (due to Thermal
pad) unless it really did get too hot inside and melted to your
Heatsink (seen it happen... not pretty)
Once that is off you can see your CPU and can tell if it looks ok or
not.. Look at your core directly and if there is any compound on it or
if you see the core directly, and any of it is black.. not a good
sign.. (either dirt from a loose HS or cooked core). Look at every area
of the CPU and Heatsink..
if all looks ok.. then remove the CPU put on a clean, level,
Static-free surface and clean it off with the Thermal Cleaner, (read
the instuctions and follow to the letter) also clean the bottom of the
heatsink (inspect that too for the sneaky black spots).
While the CPU is removed from the MB now is a great time to inspect the
entire area around the CPU for any signs of heat damage.. look at it
completly for anything odd.. compare to pictures of your exact board on
the web.. if anything looks a little off, then you might have a larger
issue at hand, but I personally belive your MB is ok.
If all is well, then reapply thermal to the Heatsink and CPU then
reinstall..
Remember,, VERY THIN Layer of Compound on the Core only for the CPU..
And remember the finger in a bag trick for re-applying to the
Heatsink.. (put a little compound on the bottom of HS, put your finger
in a clean plastic bag, press the compound with a twisting motion into
it, wipe away any excess.. you should see the compound in the "pores"
of the bottom of the HS.) Compound is a gap filler so alot isn't good
but too little isn't good either..
Re-install and move up to a barebone trouble-shooting setup..... (MB,
CPU, VID, RAM)
well if you did all that and your CPU, your Video card, and you MB look
fine visablly but you still get that beep code.. then there is a much
more serious issue..
if your getting tired of messin with this thing.. I know Best Buy does
full Diagnostics for 60$.. call them first and see what they are
willing to do.. They dont give time-tables for repairs, and if they do,
dont hold them to it.. its a retail enviroment.. just call and check up
on them and see hows it going.. they are good at calling when done with
diags normally..
your problem isn't uncommon, just hard to diagnose without looking
directly at it.
.
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