Re: Please diagnose my problem!
- From: "Jabba" <c@xxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:16:59 +0100
cheers for your help!
I went out and bought a new Motherboard - this one actually boots now so I
guess the old motherboard was bust! Oh well, its the first time I've had one
die on me so I guess I've been pretty lucky all this time.
I'm now dealing with a different BSOD
0x0000007B
Hopefully I should be able to sort this with a repair of XP!!
Sometimes computers are just too much work!
"Sparex" <Spare.parts@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> hmm this seems to be a pretty stubborn problem..
> Power is fine..
> ram seems fine..
>
> Can you test video card?
> the beep codes are a good indicator that your MB is fine.. but follow
> Bob M's Advice and look for anything odd about it.. Bad Caps, or
> anything that doesn't look like it was when it was original..
>
> 107C? no processor can stand that temp..thats 224F.. you could boil
> water on your CPU..if thats 107F.. thats 41C.. and thats fine...
> but if it really is 107C or close.. then that leads me to belive your
> CPU fan failed and you toasted your CPU.. (would also give you a
> repeating beep code)
> 80+C is BAD - Crispy critter in seconds...
>
> if your program wasn't set up right and had a variation of 25C or more
> is rather hard to belive.
>
> im really hopin thats F and not C...
>
> as for the ram test.. even if you had 2 sticks or 20.. if they were in
> that computer, then you should test a ram error with them.. you should
> use an outside stick to test it just to make sure its not a ram error..
> cause if your 2 are bad.. then in or out you will get the same error..
> so thats why ya need that outside chip that you know is good..
>
>
> ------------------------------------------
> I was gonna save this till after we checked everything else but if
> those temps are really Celcius.. then you'll need to take a look at
> your processor...
>
> now im sure you have some experience in system building and
> heatsink/CPU interfacing... If not.. Stop now and find a local friend
> or shop that will remove, test, and reinstall your CPU properly for
> you..
>
> ---Do it your self method, If you had someone else build this system
> for you and you never built a system before.. then get them to help
> you..
> If you think your Ready for this, proceed at your own risk, all Im
> doing is advising, if you have some experience in this then you should
> know what do you, I'm just gonna mark of the steps that have special
> details about them. If your proceeding on your own and you've not done
> this alot.. good luck you can cause more harm then good if you dont do
> this right.. you were warned..
>
> --before you do this.. get some replacement thermal compound, and
> thermal compound remover... www.articsilver.com (Get thier remover and
> compounds.. best i've ever used) Artic silver 5 is fantastic stuff..
> more on use later..---
>
> Attach your Anti-static strap (if you use one.. if you dont then do
> what i do when i dont have mine and keep your arm or hand on the case
> at all times to stay grounded)
> disconnect everything..
> Now your choice, you can remove the MB from the case and put on a
> clean, level, static free suface, or you can leave it in there like i
> do and go from there..
> Remove the Heatsink carefully, it might stick a little (due to Thermal
> pad) unless it really did get too hot inside and melted to your
> Heatsink (seen it happen... not pretty)
>
> Once that is off you can see your CPU and can tell if it looks ok or
> not.. Look at your core directly and if there is any compound on it or
> if you see the core directly, and any of it is black.. not a good
> sign.. (either dirt from a loose HS or cooked core). Look at every area
> of the CPU and Heatsink..
>
>
> if all looks ok.. then remove the CPU put on a clean, level,
> Static-free surface and clean it off with the Thermal Cleaner, (read
> the instuctions and follow to the letter) also clean the bottom of the
> heatsink (inspect that too for the sneaky black spots).
>
> While the CPU is removed from the MB now is a great time to inspect the
> entire area around the CPU for any signs of heat damage.. look at it
> completly for anything odd.. compare to pictures of your exact board on
> the web.. if anything looks a little off, then you might have a larger
> issue at hand, but I personally belive your MB is ok.
>
> If all is well, then reapply thermal to the Heatsink and CPU then
> reinstall..
> Remember,, VERY THIN Layer of Compound on the Core only for the CPU..
> And remember the finger in a bag trick for re-applying to the
> Heatsink.. (put a little compound on the bottom of HS, put your finger
> in a clean plastic bag, press the compound with a twisting motion into
> it, wipe away any excess.. you should see the compound in the "pores"
> of the bottom of the HS.) Compound is a gap filler so alot isn't good
> but too little isn't good either..
>
> Re-install and move up to a barebone trouble-shooting setup..... (MB,
> CPU, VID, RAM)
>
> well if you did all that and your CPU, your Video card, and you MB look
> fine visablly but you still get that beep code.. then there is a much
> more serious issue..
>
> if your getting tired of messin with this thing.. I know Best Buy does
> full Diagnostics for 60$.. call them first and see what they are
> willing to do.. They dont give time-tables for repairs, and if they do,
> dont hold them to it.. its a retail enviroment.. just call and check up
> on them and see hows it going.. they are good at calling when done with
> diags normally..
>
>
> your problem isn't uncommon, just hard to diagnose without looking
> directly at it.
>
.
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