Re: Malware scanning from a Preinstalled Environment



Sol wrote:

Adam Piggott wrote:

If you're infected with malware that's so viral it has got you examining
the registry from another PC it's going to be very difficult to exterminate
any malware references by hand. You're better off just running the disk (in
a clean PC) against a virus scanner that has good spyware/rootkit detection
such as Eset's NOD32.


Are there any free alternatives to NOD32 that you could recommend? I

Yes.

personally like BitDefender Free Edition; how does that stack up in
your opinion?

They (free AVs) don't.

Here is my 0.02 on the AV subject. No AV app is of any use to you if it doesn't work with your system, your particular needs and your internet usage (P2P, online gaming, etc.). All of them allow for an evaluation period. Use it.

AFAIAC, polls and the reviews of sites that accept advertising from AV vendors are pretty much worthless. Stick to tests and comparatives. Some AV info for your perusal:

AV-Test (Andreas Marx - Germany)
(http://www.av-test.org/)
AV-Comparatives (Andreas Clementi - Austria)
(http://www.av-comparatives.org/)
Virus.gr (VirusP - Greece)
(http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp)
Food for thought (Eugene Kaspersky)
(http://www.viruslist.com/en/analysis?pubid=174405517)

Here are the preferences that I have gleaned from the various security/paranoia NGs in which I hang out:

Free: AVG, Avast!, AntiVir
Paid: KAV, NOD32
Bottom of the List: Norton, McAfee

The knock against NAV and McAfee is due to bias (they're the big guys) and issues not related to detection rates. Note that these assessments are for AV apps for home/SOHO/personal use. The same may or may not be said about the enterprise or corporate editions. I have personally used McAfee, Norton, AVG and KAV.

KAV - Kaspersky Labs:
(http://www.kaspersky.com/us/products)
NOD32 - Eset:
(http://www.nod32-av.com/products/products.htm)

AVG - Grisoft
(http://www.grisoft.com/doc/Programs/lng/us/tpl/tpl01)
Avast! - ALWIL Software
(http://www.avast.com/eng/programs.html)
AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic
(http://www.free-av.com/)

All of the above freeware AV apps may be upgraded to a Professional/Full-Featured AV app for a fee.

Some General Anti-Virus info:
(http://home.neo.rr.com/manna4u/virusprevention.html)
(http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html)

A word to the wise. Unlike Anti-Spyware applications, where the multi-layered approach is preferable, Anti-Virus (resident) applications absolutely do NOT like each other, and one should be uninstalled completely before installing another. In many cases, eg., with Symantec products, this is easier said than done. And so, before you install ANY AV application, make sure that you acquire all information/tools/utilities that are necessary for its COMPLETE removal.

FWIW, that same list:

Free: Bus, Subway (AVG, Avast!, AntiVir)
Paid: Mercedes, Lexus (KAV, NOD32)
Bottom of the List: Ford, Chevy (Norton, McAfee)

You can drive a Ford back and forth to work, and save the cost of a Mercedes for your kids' college fund. But wouldn't it piss you off if you found out that you could have a Mercedes for the same price as a Ford? IMO, unless you are an absolute freeware purist, there are some things worth spending money on. An AV app on a WinXP box is one of them. As I said, just my 0.02.

Ron :)
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