Re: Agnitum Outpost blocking everything


"Shane" <shanebeatson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Roger Wilco wrote:
> > "Shane" <shanebeatson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:YkzTe.4429$Aa1.2433@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> > to be honest I feel that users should have other (better) methods of
> > recovery than SR which is by design incomplete.
>
> Agreed again. But should it come as part of Windows?

No! In fact the homogeneity of applications and utilities among bundled
(especially Windows) software is the bane of the internet. Microsoft
realized that most users wouldn't bother with disaster planning until
"after" the disaster and so included some halfway measures to mitigate
loss. Unfortunately, it lulls semi-clued users into feeling the OS came
with all that was needed.

> That's a big can of
> worms. MSBackup/NTBackup do, but are inadequate. I remember it being
argued
> years ago that expecting Windows to have everything you need is akin
to
> buying a house and expecting to find a car in the garage.

:)

I was surprised (and even pleased) with the amount of applications and
utilities that came bundled with the Windows OS until I realized what
damage would be done by having widespread homogeneous sloppy coding
populating the internet. It is funny to see posts where people think
that applications and utilities are part of the OS just because they
came bundled with the OS.

> If you have to buy 3rd party stuff, why not a proper backup program?
Maybe
> you have to pay for it to learn it's utility?

People have to realize they have a need before they will buy something
to fulfill it.

> Though then the same would
> apply to AntiVirus and I happily use freeware - so I don't really have
the
> answer myself.

Free is okay, but for AV especially the paid for versions generally have
better detection. If you use safe practices, you will only expose an AV
to a small fraction of what is out there and free AV programs are quite
sufficient for low exposure users.

> Anyway, I don't see why there can't be layers of restoration. Like
Scanreg
> (or Erunt) restoring just the registry (and one or two extra config
files).
> System Restore can be a very logical halfway house between
Scanreg/Erunt and
> drive imaging/mirroring (or other) solutions.

System Restore can be a good thing, but if disabling/purging is viewed
as a problem it is because a "real" recovery system isn't in place as it
should be. A "real" recovery system wasn't in place usually because the
user thinks 'it came with SR, so I'm covered'.


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