Re: Agnitum Outpost blocking everything



On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:05:34 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.mous@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>>> ..until you catch some malware that your anti-virus program isn't
>>> looking for (a trojan?), or something that gets implanted
>>> between your runs of Ad-Aware and SS&D, both of which are
>>> on-demand scanners, not resident programs.
>>
>> Malware can easily defeat sw firewalls.
>
>Regarding that, do you know if said malwares generally target only the
>prominent firewalls (Norton, McAfee, ZoneAlarm..) or do they look for
>all the others (Kerio, Sygate, etc), too?

I wasn't speaking of any particular malware. I was pointing out the
faulty logic of trusting sw firewalls to alert to Trojans.

>> A sw firewall isn't particulaly demanding of RAM and other system
>> resources nowdays, so if it gives users the warm fuzzies to use
>> one, by all means use one. But it's unnecesary ... just as realtime
>> av is unnecessary.
>
>Probably still better than nothing, as certainly all malware won't be
>disabling them.

If it gives you the warm fuzzies :) It doesn't do anything for me. I
have Sygate installed and rarely use it.

The point is that if your realtime av or your sw fireall go "ding",
you're doing something wrong. So fix _that_ problem rather than
screwing around.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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