Re: Why Plonk?
- From: Marrahm <mikemarrah@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:33:49 -0700 (PDT)
bernie,
great thoughts, thanks. Just my $.02 speaking as longtime reader but
rare poster, I plonk judicially simply because I need the electronic
help for time management if nothing else. I don't get the time to
read all the good posts I want as it is, so if I don't use the help of
the computer filter, I get too far behind the curve and I can't get
the value I need/want out of the discussions.
For context, I plonk the same two and only two individuals on this and
one other coffee group. Since November, thunderbird has filtered out
in excess of 600 messages from these two individuals. Every couple
months when I'm really bored, I'll skim through the trash folder to
see if there is any wheat in the chaff. I haven't found a single
grain of wheat yet. By avoiding the distraction of those 600 messages,
I'm confident I've found the time and energy to read an extra few
hundred useful ones. And my bloodpressure stays down to boot.
And thanks to you and all the other folks who make this an enjoyable
and educational virtual place to be.
Mike
bernie wrote:
Reading the current postings about "plonking" those pitiful ones who.
engender such disgust, I wonder why others need to go to even that
degree? What is so irresistable about replying to the sad comments of
someone who obviously relishes the idea of yanking other's chain such
that one deems it necessary to hide their posts lest it be an
irresistable tug to respond? Once it is established that the
offensive poster has no boundaries and no sense of community and no
social skills to offer why in the world would anyone continue to
banter, argue, reply, or otherwise engage that person? Its well
understood that there are no odds in employing logic, reason, guilt,
or any other commonly established social norm in getting someone bent
on negativity, harassment, pompousness to desist. I have never found
it necessary to plonk anyone. I just don't respond. I don't find it
burdensome whatsoever. The person who constantly and relentlessly
presents himself to the group in a manner carefully crafted to cause
discomfort or some form of negative response does so for pretty
specific reasons. None of which have anything to do with coffee or
espresso machines.
Jack says it pretty well as does Azrich. Once you respond you
become him. You are the problem. You are enabling the disease to
progress. Why would one do that? The easiest solution is the most
elegant' Don't respond. Ever. I'd offer my profile as an example.
Check the last time I bothered to respond to someone who was obivously
bent on trying to ruin any positive aspect of this ng. It's been a
while. Not only has it been a while, but I find not plonking the
person and not responding is one of the (if not the) most empowereing
exercises in the cyberworld of newsgroups. Try it. Try not responding
to the bait and see if it isn't a wholly superior position to command
than the continual petty responses that pick at the scab and prevent
any healing. And don't limit it to not responding to the overwhelming
posts which are negative, derisive, cunning, or otherwise cleverly
designed as provacative. Don't respond to the very few psuedo-positive
posts which are designed to "salt" the conversation with positive
comments in order to gloss over the 99% of the hateful, derisive (lol-
style) postings that make up the vast majority of the person's
posts.
That's just my take on the how-to of cleaning up the ng a little.
Bernie
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