Re:another bullshit alert!! this is absurd.!

On Aug 7, 2:06 pm, "Craig Andrews" <alt.cof...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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At least in the US,  modern kitchen receptacles are all ground fault
protected - if the GFI sense any current leakage to ground (as might be
caused by tinkering on a live machine) then it flips off.  Most states
also have concepts of contributory or comparative negligence - if the
person contributed to his injury by his own stupid actions (such as
failing to unplug) then the award is diminished or even eliminated.  It
is also understood in the law that knives are sharp, steam is hot,
etc. - it is not a preventable defect if you cut yourself with a knife
or stick your hand under the stream of hot coffee, etc.

AFAIK, product liability insurance for espresso machine manufacturers is
still available at a reasonable cost - one could speculate on all kinds
of imaginary hypotheticals but reality is something else.

Accidents do happen in the blink of eye - the other day I knocked a thin
aluminum tray off the top of my toaster oven - it fell backwards toward
the wall and its edge landed in the crack between the plug and the wall,
where it created a nice short circuit between the two prongs (BTW, in
the US, 3 prong outlets are supposed to be installed with the ground pin
facing up to help prevent such accidents, though that does nothing for 2
prong plugs which are still permitted - the European continental outlet
is recessed into the wall to help prevent this).  POW - a big arc and a
bite of the tray was vaporized. The massive overcurrent blew the breaker
as it was supposed to and all was well.

Jeess, your plug/s shouldn't BE hanging out of the wall outlet Jack!..
Craig.

I don't know what you mean - the toaster was plugged in  in the normal
way - tray fell from the back of the toaster, slid vertically along the
wall and landed with enough momentum to wedge  itself between the plug and
the utlet  - the tray was thin sheet metal and perfect for the job.

Hmmm, not the way I read it.. You said: "Accidents do happen in the blink of
eye - the other day I knocked a thin aluminum tray off the top of my toaster
oven - it fell backwards toward the wall and its edge " 'landed in the crack
between the plug and the wall' "

Whatever..
Craig.

Craig I think jack/izzy is just too busy writing to really think.

perhaps he has not heard about the SIX soldiers electrocuted in Iraq
by shoddy electrical work in the showers!! -- on base!

an espresso machine presents some the very best conditions for lethal
shock of all appliances:

large metal surfaces
WATER
proximity to GROUNDED sinks, counters
A path from one hand through the chest out the other hand!

Its a good thing that not meny read the BS on this ng. it could be
dangerous.

and jack / izzy? plug in your appliances!

dave
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