Re: Espro Toroid Pitcher



I haven't tried one personally but they seem like a good idea for the
novice - people who know what they are doing can produce microfoam without
them. My objection is to the price - a regular 20 oz. steaming pitcher is
maybe $10, this thing is close to $40 - I can't see how they can justify a
400% premium just for a clever shape. Maybe they are entitled to a slight
premium over a regular pitcher for their clever design but 4x? I see the
same thing going on w/ tampers - paying $60 for a tamper is for suckers w/
too much money burning a hole in their pocket - Italian baristas barely use
a tamper, usually just the little plastic thing attached to the front of
their grinder if at all, or a little lightweight wooden thing, and yet they
get perfect mousetails. In some American places I see people tamping and
knocking and tamping again and doing a whole dance and yet the shot is 4 oz
of gushing brown liquid. It doesn't cost $60 to make a 58mm metal disc
with a handle. Do you really need a handle made of cocobolo with a delrin
insert? Does that make the coffee taste any better? I assume the guys
making them aren't getting rich anyway because there are a limited # of
fools willing to buy into such gimmicks.




"Ed" <efaerman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I bought one and I really like it. Maybe some will think it is
"cheating" because it is so easy to get great microfoam, but if the
goal is great latte or cappuccino and you don't mind looking like less
than an expert barista, then this is worth every penny. Now that I
have seen the consistency of great foam made by my hand, it might be
possible to get good with a regular pitcher. But I wasn't even sure
what I was shooting for before the Toroid.

Any other thoughts on this product?

Ed Faerman


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