Re: 'PID' installs available in Jan. for most Gaggias

In article <slrneoa2r9.cmh.ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Ian Smith <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 16 Dec, Ken Fox <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

maybe it is just "obvious" that a PID'd Silvia for $699 isn't price
competitive with a low end HX machine such as the Bezerra BZ02S for $750?
Maybe it doesn't require online psychoanalysis but rather a modicum of
common sense?

Leaving aside the price issue completely - when I was looking at
machines, it was obvious that I didn't want a HX, and wouldn't want a
HX even if it were cheaper.

I don't put any milk in my coffee.

I make one cup a weekday, maybe four a weekend day.

For this usage, a HX is (I believe) inferior to a decent hunk of brass
single boiler with a PID. My Silvia uses less time getting up to
operational, uses less electricity, and has a simpler process to
produce the coffee than a HX. It's also physically smaller so fits
easier in my small kitchen.

As such, sweeping statements that common sense indicates an HX
is a superior machine, are nonsense.

regards, Ian SMith

I wonder how a single boiler E61 machine compares to the Silvia. Would
it be worth the extra money? And would it be more temp stable?

I do agree with you that because of what you produce, the Silvia makes
more sense than an HX. I had figured that the idea behind HX was so you
could steam immediately instead of the relatively long heat time to
steam on a single boiler machine.
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