Re: Crackin' this market
- From: "Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:51:33 -0400
More on the Scace thermofilter here:
I believe this would be a valuable tool for any tech. It will fit in any
bottomless 58mm portafilter and is not limited to LM. Measuring at the
output is not as accurate as measuring inside the basket - this device
really tells you the actual brew temperature the coffee grounds will
experience, without extrapolation. You still need your Fluke to connect the
LM's have thermostats on the brew boiler (and P'stats on the steam boiler)
unless they have been PIDed (a good idea). Picture here:
Best to work with power off as the power terminals are rather near the
adjusting screw. I gather that 1 turn is 12 degrees F. clockwise = hotter.
The machines are very well respected so if you are unimpressed it is likely
the usual culprits - misadjustment, lack of cleanliness, lack of fresh
coffee, bad technique, etc. You of all people should know this.
"sprsso" <acritzer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
Thanks for your response. I am not that familiar with your device, and
if it would have applications outside the realm of LM's. My Fluke,
although bulky does a good job, whether measuring in the cup or at the
output, which is my preference.
I'm pretty sure I heard an interview with you on a podcast, and have
heard really good things about your device.
Perhaps a reintroduction here would be beneficial to some of the
newcomers, and increase awareness of your product. I, for one, would
be very interested in reading a current description, where it has
affected the market, especially in your own words and not some
reviewer or reseller. I would be interested in your estimation of its
performance, how to interpret results, etc.
I avidly read anything you write. If you have the time, I would
appreciate hearing from you about what has transpired to this date,
and how this device has performed, based on your own standards.
All that having been said, I have very few LM's in my market, and
haven't worked on one for over 10 years. I understand that they are
considered the standard for quality, but so far I have not been
impressed. The only good shots from them that I have had have been
from Dr. John. I am certain that is not the fault of the machine, more
likely the operator.
Something is definitely wrong with the machine I wrote about earlier.
How do you adjust boiler temp on these machines? I would at least like
to be informed as to how to correct his problem when it comes to that.
I am perplexed as to how a machine that runs cold at idle, could still
have an impact on my tongue today....al
On 11 Apr 2006 13:37:07 -0700, "gscace" <gregory.scace@xxxxxxxx>
An unmodified Linea will run cold if it is not well flushed after
periods of inactivity. The group solenoid and the flowmeter (if
automatic) are hanging out in space and suck heat out of the brew
water. IMO this stuff was added as an afterthought, and rather
successfully ruins the off-idle performance of an otherwise very good
machine. The amount of group flush required to get an automatic up to
temperature is a good 10 seconds worth. Anyhoo, I'm always impressed
with peoples' abilities to screw up otherwise good equipemnt, and I
believe you if you say this machine was way too hot. To address your
specific concern, I'd suggest that you show him that it's too hot if
he'll let you do so. ONe of my deeevices would make it pretty hard
for him to refute the claim, particularly if you then tweaked his
machine to more normal configs and pulled a better shot.
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