Re: Could UA be related to cellphones?

dr_jeff wrote:
Conscience wrote:
On 2010-03-11 19:07:37 -0800, dr_jeff <utz@xxxxxxx> said:

Conscience wrote:
On 2010-03-11 18:58:00 -0800, dr_jeff <utz@xxxxxxx> said:

Conscience wrote:
On 2010-03-11 18:39:58 -0800, dr_jeff <utz@xxxxxxx> said:

Conscience wrote:
On 2010-03-11 17:09:35 -0800, dr_jeff <utz@xxxxxxx> said:

Fooling around with your radio/CD player has been shown to be more distracting than cell phone use.

But you'll never hear anyone talk about banning their use.

One fools around with the CD or radio for a few seconds, not for minutes on end as with a cell phone.

Which in no way negates what I wrote. Time is irrelevant.

Do try to keep up, "doctor".

Nor did what you say negate my comment. It is a valid comment. One spends far more time talking on the cell phone than playing with the radio. And time is relevant. If you think that doing something distracting for 10 seconds is as distracting doing something distracting for 5 minutes, you are sadly mistaken.

You don't need to be so hostile or disrespectful. I wasn't disrespectful of you.

Let's try this again. I stated that radio/CD use was more distracting that cell phone use. Not my research, but it's true.

Actually, no: http://www.hsrc.unc.edu/safety_info/distracted_drowsy/distracted_drivers_researcher_remarks.cfm shows that people are more likely to swerve when answering a cell phone than using the radio controls.

I didn't restrict it to "swerving", but thanks for playing.

Perhaps you should read the whole report. It does not support your claim that using radios is dangerous than using cell phones. It, too, is not restricted to swerving.

Same as global warming. But in this case, I read a report five or six years ago that claimed it does cause more distraction than cellphones.

Now the shoe's on the other foot. ;-)

You read a study 5 or 6 years ago? What study? How has cell phone use and radio/stereo use and controls changed since then?

Shoe's still on your foot.

http://www.aaafoundation.org/pdf/DistractionsInEverydayDrivingHiRes.pdf

Page 8.

Have a nice evening.

THe problem is that this research was done in 2001. A higher proportion of people have cell phones now. Further, the average time that a manipulation of the radio controls took was 5.5 sec, much shorter than a cell phone call. And, in the study, the only reported distraction that nearly resulted in a crash was a result of cell phone use.

In addition, twice as high a proportion of people where observed using cell phones (3% vs 1.3% in the study you cited) in a different study (http://www.nsc.org/safety_road/Distracted_Driving/Documents/Passenger%20Vehicle%20Driver%20Cell%20Phone%20Use%20Results.pdf).


Jeff

The point of this discussion shouldn't be you're right or I'm right (of course, I am right).

We should be able to discuss this in a civil manner. For example, I would point out that the physical demands of cell phone use is not a big issue. However, the mental demands are. While talking on a cell phone, the big problem isn't that one's hands aren't on the wheel. It is that one's brain is not on the road, but on the conversation, in other words, mental distraction.

It doesn't mean that what you have to say is less important or what I have to say is more important, but that we don't need to get the last word or have a winner or loser.

Jeff
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