Re: Tacoma Trottle Case

On 02/15/2010 10:35 AM, C. E. White wrote:
"jim beam"<me@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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so let's clarify your position:

1. do you think all complaints are merited?

Of course not. Do you think all 400+ complaints that Toyota received
directly were bogus?

i think people not noticing if their freakin floor mat is bunched up under a pedal is bogus. and i think frod killing literally hundreds of people and /still/ not admitting fault is also bogus.



2. what account are you taking of the idiot factor?

Even idiot can have problems with cars. I think the CHP guy that
killed his family in CA was an idiot, but that doesn't mean there was
not a problem with the car. Defect + idiot = much larger problem. All
companies try to make things reasonably idiot proof, sometimes they
fail.

and others show up in d.c. with millions of dollars to have our political, so-called, "representatives" do nothing but whitewash. frod saying the a rollover is the fault of a flat tire is one such example. the current bullshit, with which you have apparently been snowed, is payoff to a gm whose inability to produce a product like people like or want, means their only option is to try to diss their competitors.



3. do you think that complaints that end up being unsubstantiable
should somehow be pursued, while those of other manufacturers that
simply kill hundreds of people can be ignored?

The complaints don't look "unsubstantiable" now do they?

if, on investigation, you can't find the alleged "fault", that's "insubstantiable". and it is right to ignore it.



because that's how you're reading to me.

I think you are operating under the standard Toyota practice of
sticking your head up you a&* and trying to defelct criticism by
attacking the messenger.

no, i'm holding up a mirror to the hypocrisy and bullshit on this. frod has killed hundreds. what happens? nothing. gm has cost us billions of dollars, send its jobs and produces crap. what happens? nothing. toyota, who pay attention tot he market and know their engineering, but who only spend $30k odd on political contributions vs the $700/800k of their competition, gets it up the ass when the crackpot [and expensive] "cash for clunkers" scheme backfires. that's ridiculous



When Toyota indicated their records included 100's of complaints
regarding engine speed control problems, I think NHTSA should have
done more than buy a BS explanation that the complaints were the
result of bad publicity.

was it right for nhtsa to ignore the hundreds killed by frod with their ridiculous exploder fiasco?


If NHTSA and Toyota had taken these
complaints seriously in 2007 instead of trying to sweep things under
the rug, Toyota would not be facing the huge public relations
nightmare they are now living through.

then you're a gullible fool - you've been taken in by the political whitewash of a failed gm bailout.


State Farmed warned NHTSA there
was a problem. I am sure the suits at NHTSA wish they had actually
looked into the problem instead of buying a half assed Toyota excuse.

what's with all this nhtsa blame stuff dude? they just serve their political masters. if you don't like their oversight standards, write your representative. and make sure you include your indignation about frod and the hundreds of americans they killed.



Ed



one more thing - i think you need to understand my motivation. i /want/ to see a world-leading, best practices, domestic vehicle industry. but the incumbents don't get it. all they get is how to show up in d.c. and lobby for special treatment. all while they're shipping american jobs to china. that is wrong. and if the only way their dumb asses get the message is to lose their business because people like myself refuse to get ripped off buying their crap, then bring it on.


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