Re: {OT} Another phony weight loss remedy bites the dust

CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
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On 2009-05-02 10:50:23 -0700, "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5hsr@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:

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On 2009-05-02 10:08:52 -0700, Jeff <jeff.utz@xxxxxxxxx> said:

I was pointing out that what we eat *is* our diet. So we might as well
choose wisely.
If everyone did that, we'd not be the fattest nation in the civilized
world. Or any of them for that matter.

--
"Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social
compact on the Foundation of the Redeemer's mission upon earth? That it
laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of
Christianity?" -- John Q. Adams

I'm still scratching my head here. My grandparents and their parents etc
and so on back ate stuff that should have made them big as a barn. They
drank whole milk straight from the cow. They used real butter and made real
cheese. They smoked their own meats. They drank beer with lunch, even the
kids. They lived at times in little dinky shacks with lots of kids. They
went to little one room school houses, if they had the luck to go at all.
They had to mostly eat what they grew on the farm. If they had extra eggs
and butter, Grandma would take it to town to sell. They ate lots of meat,
even if, at times, it was squirrel meat!

How come they didn't drop dead at 40? My grandparents actually lived LONGER
than my parents, who were exposed to all this 'don't eat this, don't eat
that' bull***. My great-great-grandfather lived to be 79, long before
'healthy eating' and 'modern medicine' I have ancestors that lived into
their 90's.

I hold that making all these artificial foods is f***ing up our bodies, too.
We seem to play around with sugar, fat and salt. If we lower one of the
three, we raise the other two, and I think it's not natural and part of the
reason our bodies are so fat is that our body reacts unnaturally to it.
It's partly our consumption of processed foods and their inherent overuse of chemicals, but it goes to activity.

You can eat like a horse if you work like one. Our grandparents or parents didn't sit around much. Certainly our level of sit-down leisure activity didn't even exist then, but no one forces anyone to sit on an ever-increasingly large ass and do nothing while eating an entire three-thousand calorie pizza and a six-pack. Most people have no clue as to just how many calories they eat each day. And they look it.

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"The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." -- John F. Kennedy


But why didn't my grandparents choke up and die from arteriosclorosis etc? if butterfat etc is so BAD for you? Even though they worked hard, they must have consumed tons of saturated fats and things that we are now told is bad for us? I suspect that what we're being told is a bit of a line. If we were more like our ancestors, we'd be healthier and if we ate fresher food (not preprocessed fluffed, puffed, waved, blowed and dyed) like they did, I suspect we'd be a lot healther, too.

Charles Grozny


Read the labels, get a postal scale and measure. Amazing what we consider normal now is two, three maybe four times what a person needs or should have. It's pretty basic really, fresh fruits, reasonable amounts of fats, high fiber, little processed flour and sugar. Grownups don't need a lot of protein. For a lot of us to eat healthy we'd think we were starving but if you want to live a long life that's the way to eat. Corn syrup, processed flour, white bread, whole milk, saturated fats, transfat bad bad bad. 4 calories/gram in carbohydrates and protein, 9/gram for fat. They add up fast.
Drink water instead of soft drinks, takes a while but give it a couple of weeks and you will think you are drinking syrup if you drink a soft drink (and actually that's about what it is).
So what do we worry about? Flying pig flu.
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