Re: OT: US Chamber of Commerce endorses Obama stimulus plan


"Jeff" <jeff.utz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:3984fd50-e971-41dc-9875-3b70c72f7fe3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Feb 28, 9:45 am, dbu' <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Jeff <jeff....@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Actually, poor people tend to eat lower quality food. So they tend to
> eat lots of fast foods. A Big Mac, Large Fries and Coke has something
> like 1500 Cals per meal, compared with an average daily energy
> requirement of 2000 to 2500 Cals. Another place poor go is KFC (aka KY
> fried chicken). There is very little on their menu that has less 10 g
> fat or is low in Cals.

> Unfortunately, poor people often have difficulty family and social
> situations that make getting healthy meals a low priority. Plus
> McDonalds and KFC offer lots of Cals per buck.

> Jeff

That's bull*** jeff and you know it. Why do you continue to spew
these lies day after day?

You should get your money back from that course you took on mind
reading. Because you can't read my mind.

If I am incorrect, please prove it. We (including me) can all learn.

I have worked with kids and adults in different situations, including
in medicine and education, that provides me with first-hand knowledge,
as well as reading and learning from others.

Perhaps you will kind enough to share your knowledge in a positive
manner.




<JS>
The weight factors (societal issues, not obesity) you cite for making poor dietary choices certainly exist, and probably play out exactly as you said. BUT, these factors become The Norm, and perpetuate themselves. That is, the behavior remains and plays out among children that live through these factors and manage to move away from them. When a mother that is burdened by those weight factors raises kids under the resulting decision making processes, the decision making persists after the weight factors are removed. If a kid grows up in a home where home-cooked meals are the exception rather than the norm, then they continue the norm of eating poorly prepared meals.

Having said all of that, the challenge is not to remove the problems that cause poor dietary choices to be made -- those problems lead to poor food choices they are not caused by poor food choices -- but to make good choices persist through the bad times. If poor choices made in the bad times are enabled, then those same poor choices remain in the good times. Proof of this is that the American obesity rates dwarf the rest of the known universe, and we can't all be living in the sorts of bad times that you describe as leading to bad food choices. Poor people have to figure out how to prepare wholesome foods for their families. Indeed, lots of us regardless of economic status could use some help in learning how to prepare wholesome foods at home.

I don't want to close down the McD's down on the corner, but it would be a good thing if people were eating there once a week instead of four or five times. In my family, we don't hit the fast food joint more than about 3 times a month. I'm no model of physical fitness -- believe me -- but my wife manages to cook every day, and my kids know the value of good food in their diet. We know that we can eat at home for at least two nights for the same cost as hitting the fast food joint once. Frequently, we can put together three home cooked dinners for the price of one trip through the drive-thru, but we can always get two dinners for the price of one trip in the drive-thru lane.

The drive-thru is easy and fast, but it sure aint healthy.

</JS>

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