Re: {OT:} Why don't voting machines flip repugnican votes to democrats


"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:fzJOk.12583$f_7.12095@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Shmuckland wishes everyone would forget history, rather than learn from it. He reads no history and has nothing but disdain for learning.



You just go around making *** up! The history is plain, you lost. Several times. Get over it.

If you want to debate the voting machines, I think the electronic terminals should be scrapped. We use then here and I like them. I think they have sufficient security, but they ought to be tossed. I think we should be using the cards that have little bubbles that we fill in with a #2 pencil. If you need help to do this, then the poll workers should provide a person to sit with you or allow you to bring somebody to help if you prefer that. I get the whole secret ballot thing, but if you have health issues that preclude you from holding a pencil, then I don't see that your vote is compromised by getting help from a poll worker or from your own helper.

I also like the punch card ballots, and accept the responsibility to make sure I knock the chads off.

Voting is a right AND a responsibility. Voters should vote on the most reliable system, not the easiest system. Voting should be in English only because voters are required to have citizenship, and citizens are required to speak Englilsh as a condition of getting citizenship. There is no valid reason to provide a ballot in any language other than English.

Voters should be asked to provide identification at the ballot box. There is no reason a voter does not carry a driver license or some other form of identification.

The vast majority of the tabulation problems in 2000 and 2004 were caused by voters themselves failing to mark the ballot card properly. This is the single biggest cause of vote tabulation errors.

I would also suggest that there be NO MEDIA COVERAGE OF THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE until after the polls close in the polling places furthest west. Assuming Pacific time, the media should be completely and utterly silent until California polls close. Obviously, Hawaii would be the furthest west, so we would have to wait 3 more hours after Calif. polls closed to hear any news of the presidential race. There are other ways to avoid tipping the race through the media, and I'm not married to any one of them, I just mentioned one to illustrate the point -- the media talks about the race results through exit polls long before the largest state in the country has been to the polls. Due to the results that have been reported, the reaction of Calif voters can be swayed and the resulting outcome is then affected -- voters might not vote because their guy has already won or lost and their vote won't matter. Or, their vote might be perceived as mattering more when they would otherwise bail on the whole process. Either way, the vote is changed because of media coverage.

You complain that a punch card ballot is too hard to work and this sways the results, but you don't say a word about sending millions of voters away because the results in the East have already become history and reported on.





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