Re: {OT} Obama Admits Muslim Faith


"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:y0wxk.2048$na6.142@xxxxxxx
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ga61g3$9g2$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Jeff Strickland, 9/8/2008,5:51:46 PM, wrote:

Tell us which part of this applies to detainees captured in war
actively engaged in war activities. Go ahead ...

I just don't understand why JoeSpareBedroom loves terrorists so much.


What a simpleminded piece of trash you are. Can you not see that when your government decides to suspend the Constitution for citizens, you will make up an excuse to feel fine about it?


Which citizens has the Constitution been suspended for? None of the people in this discussion is a citizen of the United States.

I'll concede the point that Jose Padilla is a citizen, and his case is troubling, so you don't need to dwell on that one. Name another citizen.


How many more would you need to hear about before you'd think it was becoming a major problem? Gimme a number.


One or two. I'm easy.

The Padilla case is alarming, I completely agree with that. But, when we pick up combatants on the battle field where the battle is actively being waged and we pick up a citizen on the streets of Chicago, and hold them in the same conditions, then we have a potential Constitutional crisis on our hands.

I have absolutely no problem with the detention of combatants picked up on the battle field. I have no problem and no reservation. Grab them and hold them as long as you want. As a practical matter, the small number of military detainees is not a problem for the Constitution at all.

Now, throw in the case of Jose Padilla, and we have big problems. This particular case is not problematic on its own, but it means that you and I can be grabbed off the streets of our home town or any town for that matter and held without charge, and the problems become obvious.

So, other than Jose Padilla, name any other citizen who's Constitutional rights have been violated.

The bleeding hearts for the Gitmo detainees simply do not sway me.



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