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"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I'm sorry you've had such bad luck, but you haven't dated every single
woman in the world. While some are precisely what you're describing, I
don't think it's fair to lump us all into the same category, anymore than
it's fair to say that all men are alike.

Most men ARE alike. That's why I don't socialize with most of them, either.
There are only about 5 guys I even get along with here in a.a.t.

Hey, good luck with that. You're still placing way too much blame on
women, when the misdeeds of the elected male officials are *their* own
doing. Again I say, *we* did not put anyone in power. *ALL* voters did.


The women voted in the majority for all three presidents I listed, showing
they had at least as poor judgement as the men.

I also say again, that to categorize all women based on your own
perceptions of the ones you've met (and no matter how many women you've
met, you have *not* met enough to make a wide-reaching judgement like
that), is not only unfair, but ludicrous. I have no delusions about
thinking that most men find strong women appealing; of course not. But if
I had judged men the way you're blanketly judging women, I'd certainly
still be single.


My track record of women since I was 25 is pretty consistant. Every one of
them has been interested in either sex or money. Not a one of them is
interested in me as a person. Oh, they'll lie at first and pretend they
are, but in the end it comes down to that. Each and every time. I kept
hoping but now that I've hit 50, it's just not worth it anymore. Not one
I've dated is either materialistic or wants me to show them how much I can
'thrill' them before we commit to each other. The well is DEEPLY poisoned
with that attitude. I shan't draw from it again.

How about looking at whatever preconceived notions you had about these
women before you even met them? Has it occurred to you that your
demeanor, and overall low opinion of women might be rather obvious?

The more I interact with women, the more misogynist I become. The other
day I was talking to a woman, and she asks me why I don't buy a new car.
I had just bought the 95 this year. I think not ONE woman has listened
to or understood "Pleasant Valley Sunday" and they all want to live in
"Status Symbol Land". They can live there by themselves, see if I care.
They can drive their Beemers and their fancy cars and live in McMansions.
And pay for it in the next life, because pay they will. I already don't
like the majority of most guys because most of THEM are also that shallow
and think that sex and money is all there is.

Charles the Curmudgeon and Misogynist

She probably wondered, as I would, why an apparently financially stable
person would buy a used car, with all of the possible unseen problems,
rather than a new one. It sounds to me like you read more into what she
was saying than was actually there. Very unfair.

I buy used cars because I can't really afford new ones anymore. I found
out the NURSES around here make more than I do. I remember when they were
just barely making minimum wage. Can't afford the monthly payment and
definitely can't afford the insurance. Thrift USED to be an American value,
now it's spend all you can, can all you git, and sit on the lid. Living for
the next life instead of living hedonistically in this life used to be
important. I see way too many people live that way. It's bad enough when I
see kids that are too young yet to understand do it, but it's worse when I
see most of the boomer generation STILL doing it. They're not going to
have anything when 65 rolls around. Material possessions don't pay the
bills when you can't get a job anymore because no one wants you because
you're OLD. I watched society do that to my Dad. He went from a retail
assistant manager to living off his children's help in one day. And he
HATED it. And I used to get insulted about it by a lot of people. A lot of
single women avoided me because my family was important to me. Way too many
of them thought I should give up on my dad and go shove him in a nursing
home and live for me. If this is the future of America, then we have no
future. For crying out loud, even the PASTOR of the church I then attended
made crude remarks about it. (I no longer attend that church, BTW.) He
also made veiled remarks about he thought I wasn't tithing, even though I
was. When I proved I was tithing, he asked why I wasn't making more? It
had taken me years to get where I was. He made fun of me still living at
home with my folks. That is why I'm now a Disgruntled Baptist instead of a
Baptist is because of hedonistic materialistic people like him.

I really am scared for the future of this nation. Since the 1950's, we've
become the cult of consumerism. If we had hard times like the 1930's, or
like the farmers had even in the 1920's, almost no one could cope with it.
My mom's family came up through some hard times in southern Illinois, and my
Dad's family came up through the same hard times in Chicago. All my life,
most of the neighbor kids made fun of the fact that we were driving an old
Chevy II or an old Corvair instead of a new Buick or something similar.
The few we hung around with understood. But such 'kids' are getting mighty
few now that I'm stuck in the Burbs. I'm being told I drive a Beaner car,
that I ought to be driving a Beemer to impress the women. Sorry, if that's
the only kind of women I can get, I'll do without. I want a woman with a
different value system than that. They used to exist, but they don't, at
least not around here. There aren't even that many guys like that, but at
least a few of the guys I work with get it. Sadly there are no single women
where I work over the age of 30. (I'm too old to chase something that
young.) So I'm giving up. I've already given up on eHarmony and
match.com, I keep finding women that have exactly the same mentality I'm
trying to get away from. I'm solidly convinced the pool has been pretty
thoughoughly pissed in around these parts. The only place I see people
that think the way I do anymore is mostly among my mom's family down in the
southern part of Illinois. (I recently had to go to a family funeral. It
felt good to be among people that understand that 'poor folk' aren't all
lazy or stupid like the burbers up here think. The 'Burber attitude of
it's my fault if I'm not making all the money I can by clawing over the rest
of the world and shitting on them as I pass by really sucks and I won't have
it.) Way too many people up here are owned by their possesions. They
should go watch Hurt by Johnny Cash until they really understand it, most of
them don't get it at all.


Charles the Curmudgeon and permanent misoygynist.


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