Re: For Cathy F


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We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.


Pink Floyd said it sooo well.
--
Charles of Schaumburg

Translation: You'd feel just fine about teachers if their
voting
records
were monitored, along with their church attendance. (Would
certain
denominations be prohibited? Would temple/synogogue count?
Mosque?!)

Going out on a (short) limb: If only right-wing church-goers
were
allowed
to
teach, something tells me it wouldn't bother you if they not
only
stated
their own various POV to the students - at any grade level, but
actively
pushed their agendas, no less.

Cathy



Actually what needs to be done is to make your job competitive
and
measurable.

You need to know you can be fired for being incompetent.

Your performance should be measured and graded.

--
Scott in Florida

It is. After teaching for 35 years, I still get formal, written
observations.

Cathy

Not by people that count.....


Who would be people that count?

My guess is: non-educators.

Cathy

Nope.....

People that can improve the quality of education.

We are damned near the bottom of the world now...

--
Scott in Florida

You're just running away from the question, Name some types of people
better
able to evaluate teachers for competence in the field than other
teachers
and, to a lesser extent, administrators. Not unlike Medicine and law,
peer
review is effective for program and performance improvement.

The present system is effective?

Then why is our education system damned near the bottom?

ANYBODY could do a better job at educating kids, than the present
government system!



Chuck's bitch is the bitch of the ignorant -- Teachers do not decide
what
is
to be taught, that is the domain of the state and local school board,
teachers decide how to deliver the curriculum to students in a manner
that
the student can assimilate.

"Florida -- God's waiting room"

Florida Gods Country....



--
Scott in Florida



She complains that I did NOT see America's education system going down
the
drain in the years 1962 to 1991. I was in school until 1977 and then
my
siblings covered the years until 1988 when I went back to college. I
know
what I saw. The public education system is for indoctrination. I saw
the
beginning of the modern phase of it in Arkansas in the 1980's They
started pushing PC on the college campuses of Arkansas in 1990 or so.

My bitch is the bitch of the ignorant, huh? Then who decides? The
NEA?
I'm back to my original point that the NEA should be totally banned
from
having ANYTHING to do with our school system. They've been screwing up
schooling since the 1960's when they started with that screwball 'New
Math' crap. Thank God I learned 'Old Math' in Chicago before I got hit
with the 'New Math' in 5th grade. If you say the local school board,
then
who tells them? Again we're right back to the National Educational
Assholes with their own Communistic indoctrination agenda. And Cathy
just
goes along with it, seeing the point of views she espouses on this
newsgroup.

Charles of Schaumburg



What state do you live in? And how much time have you spent at school
board
meetings? Have you complained to anyone else, other than people in this
newsgroup?


SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS?

ROFLMAO

--
Scott in Florida



My father and I have both been to many school board meetings.

If this is true, then why did you express wonder re: how the money of a
district's budget is allocated? Just happened to miss the meetings leading
up to the budget vote, or what? Or didn't bother to pick up a copy of the
budget on your way into the mtgs? Or tossed the mailings sent out
pre-budget vote, without bothering to read them?

We learned
how they worked them. They wait until after the public gets tired of the
long meeting and meet and do whatever they originally intended to do. We
found out how BADLY we had been lied to by the board. They claimed they
wanted more money from the taxpayers to build up the academic subjects.
The year AFTER the tax increase was effective, they DROPPED more academic
subjects than in the two years before. Dad went on the warpatth after
that. He opposed EVERY member of the school board running for reelection
after that, no matter what their professed idealogy.

And I suspect our little school board isn't the only one that passed their
God-Damned agenda after the public goes home so they don't know about it.
As a matter of fact, I'm fairly sure that's the standard Modus Operandi of
a lot of school boards. We know better, so we'll pass it anyway, no
matter what the public says.

You DON"T know better. You're just a bunch of Communists in disguise.
Your real hero is Joe Stalin, and Hillary Clinton. We should do to most
of you what we did to King George's Tax Collectors. Except I think we're
a little short on Tar, maybe we'll use SuperGlue. By your elitism, you
have shown that you are an enemy to the American Republic and its
citizens. You going to tell me that teaching a kid about sex in
Kindergarten is good for them? Until you arseholes started meddling with
it, most kids had no idea about sex until they hit puberty. Their little
minds need to develop to be able to handle that sort of thought and you
want to dump it on them before they're ready so you can make them follow
your line.

Again, you're going to end up in Hell for what you've done to kids. They
can't even have a proper childhood anymore. So now we have over a full
generation of kids that are mentally messed up and couldn't figure their
way out of a paper sack. Then you wonder why so many kids are violent in
school? Then after you've sought to undermine the parental influence, you
turn right around and blame the parents for all the bad things that
happen?

Charles of Schaumburg

How much of your life do you spent in non-anger, non-hate, non-condemning,
non-rant mode?

Cathy





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